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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>
Cc: "Jörg Thalheim" <joerg@higgsboson.tk>, util-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nsenter: add support for pty
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 10:59:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y4muguuj.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150318111313.GC28925@ws.net.home> (Karel Zak's message of "Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:13:13 +0100")

Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com> writes:

> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:53:19AM +0100, Jörg Thalheim wrote:
>> If mount namespaces are used, the issued command, will not have access to the
>> tty device attached to its stdin/stdout/stderr. This patch adds an option to
>> allocate a new pseudo tty in the entered mount namespace and bridge between the
>> origin standard file descriptors and the standard file descriptors of the
>> executed command.
>
> The original nsenter(1) purpose is to have command line interface to
> setns(2) syscall. Your patch is trying to push us to something more
> complex. Not sure if we really want it. Eric, any comment?

I certainly would not want it to be the default.
After seeing the ptsname() and gpg I see what is driving it.

However playing the pty games gets us smack dab in the middle of sending
and receiving trusted input.  I don't know that I want nsenter to be on
the trusted path for entering in passwords for unlocking gpg keys.

If gpg is the driving use case I don't think it is wise to add pty
support.  All of a sudden nsenter has to become robust from side channel
attacks when you are entering in passwords and I at least have no
interest in maintaining nsenter in that way.

Eric

      parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-18 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-18  9:53 [PATCH] nsenter: add support for pty Jörg Thalheim
2015-03-18 11:13 ` Karel Zak
2015-03-18 13:40   ` Jörg Thalheim
2015-03-18 15:59   ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]

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