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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH] virtio-net: introduce admin control virtqueue
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 04:03:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210122040148-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1877911059.48448087.1611304883835.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com>

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 03:41:23AM -0500, Jason Wang wrote:
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 04:23:25PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > When implementing multiple (sub)functions virtio device like SRIOV or
> > > sub-function. We're suffering from several issues:
> > > 
> > > - There's no management interface for management function (PF) to
> > >   configure features, attributes for a (sub)function
> > > - Per (sub)function control virtqueue could be too expensive as the
> > >   number of (sub)functions could be very large
> > > - Virtualize per (sub)function control virtqueue could be very
> > >   challenge as we need the support of DMA isolation at queue level
> > > 
> > > So this patch introduces the feature of VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_ADMIN_VQ. This
> > > allows the device to implement a single admin control virtqueue to
> > > manage per (sub)function features and attributes.
> > > 
> > > The idea is simple, a new function id is introduced on top of the
> > > exist virtio_net_ctrl structure. This id is transport or device
> > > specific to uniquely identify a (sub)function.
> > > 
> > > With this, we get a way of using management function (PF) to configure
> > > per (sub)function features and attributes. And since the admin control
> > > virtqueue belongs to management function (PF), the DMA is naturally
> > > isolated at (sub)function level instead of the queue level for per
> > > (sub)function control vq.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> > 
> > Let's specify how this works at least for PCI? What about sub-functions
> > under VF level? How are these specified?
> 
> Ok, will do.
> 
> > 
> > > ---
> > >  content.tex | 23 +++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  1 file changed, 23 insertions(+)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> > > index 620c0e2..98592a4 100644
> > > --- a/content.tex
> > > +++ b/content.tex
> > > @@ -2940,6 +2940,9 @@ \subsection{Feature bits}\label{sec:Device Types /
> > > Network Device / Feature bits
> > >  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_MAC_ADDR(23)] Set MAC address through control
> > >      channel.
> > >  
> > > +\item[VIRTIO_NET_F_ADMIN_CTRL_VQ(56)] Admin control channel is
> > > +    available.
> > > +
> > >  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_HASH_REPORT(57)] Device can report per-packet hash
> > >      value and a type of calculated hash.
> > >  
> > > @@ -3864,6 +3867,26 @@ \subsubsection{Control Virtqueue}\label{sec:Device
> > > Types / Network Device / Devi
> > >  do except issue a diagnostic if \field{ack} is not
> > >  VIRTIO_NET_OK.
> > >  
> > > +\subsubsection{Admin Control Virtqueue}\label{sec:Device Types / Network
> > > Device / Device Operation / Control Virtqueue}
> > > +
> > > +When VIRTIO_NET_F_ADMIN_CTRL_VQ is negotiated, the driver can use the
> > > +control virtqueue to manipulate features of individual function where
> > 
> > manipulate features? You don't mean feature bits, do you?
> 
> I copy from the control virtqueue paragraph above:
> 
> """
> The driver uses the control virtqueue (if VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_VQ is
> negotiated) to send commands to manipulate various features of
> the device which would not easily map into the configuration
> space.
> """
> 
> Do we need to tweak that part as well?
> 
> Thanks

Maybe, but let's be a bit more specific. For example,
is it legal to manipulate the MAC of a VF?
When is it legal?


> > 
> > > +the control virtqueues is not easily implemented in each function.
> > > +
> > > +All commands are of the following form:
> > > +
> > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > +struct virtio_net_admin_ctrl {
> > > +        u32 function_id;
> > > +        struct virtio_net_ctrl ctrl;
> > > +};
> > > +
> > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > +
> > > +The \field{function_id} is an unique transport or device specific
> > > +identifier for a function. E.g for the case of PCI SRIOV, it's the id
> > > +of PCI function.
> > > +
> > >  \paragraph{Packet Receive Filtering}\label{sec:Device Types / Network
> > >  Device / Device Operation / Control Virtqueue / Packet Receive Filtering}
> > >  \label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Device Operation / Control
> > >  Virtqueue / Setting Promiscuous Mode}%old label for latexdiff
> > >  
> > > --
> > > 2.25.1
> > 
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-22  9:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-22  8:23 [virtio-comment] [PATCH] virtio-net: introduce admin control virtqueue Jason Wang
2021-01-22  8:31 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-01-22  8:41   ` Jason Wang
2021-01-22  9:03     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2021-01-22  9:14       ` Jason Wang
2021-01-22 12:14         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-01-25  3:57           ` Jason Wang
2021-01-22 10:11 ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2021-01-25  3:51   ` Jason Wang
2021-01-25  4:08     ` Jason Wang

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