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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>,
	virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
	arseny.krasnov@kaspersky.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
	jasowang@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 0/3] virtio-vsock: SOCK_SEQPACKET description
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:19:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220113081602-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fsprx63i.fsf@redhat.com>

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 11:50:09AM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 12 2022, Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > v11:
> > - reworked "Message and record boundaries" paragraph [stefanha]
> >
> > v10: https://markmail.org/message/aebu4zqp4kxdm4ej
> >
> > Linux kernel and QEMU already merged SOCK_SEQPACKET support,
> > so I'm resending Arseny's patches to have consistent virtio-spec
> > and implementation.
> 
> It really should not have been merged without a spec :( But now that it
> has happened already, we need to get a proper spec added sooner rather
> than later, and it would be nice if it could make virtio 1.2, which
> would mean that voting needs to start this week.
> 
> (I don't see an issue at https://github.com/oasis-tcs/virtio-spec/issues
> yet; creating one would be an obvious pre-req.)
> 
> >
> > I added patch 2, following the discussion about F_STREAM feature bit:
> > https://markmail.org/message/aoaspjy2jhidwbuo#query:+page:1+mid:obw54zzikgqimhjk+state:results
> >
> > About patch 2, the vhost-vsock device in the Linux kernel doesn't set bit 0
> > (F_STREAM), so at this point I don't know if it's better to use a negative
> > feature flag (e.g. F_NO_STREAM) or we go for F_STREAM and send a patch to
> > linux-stable (and QEMU?) to solve this issue.
> 
> I fear that even with a patch for stable, there can still be old setups
> around for which "only F_SEQPACKET set" translates to "supports both
> stream and seqpacket"... so I guess it mostly becomes a question of
> whether ignoring those broken setups is tolerable. (The old setups not
> setting any feature bits are fine with the proposed patch.)

It's only been there since 5.14. If we fix it in 5.17 then I think
it's tolerable. And the broken part just would mean creating
sockets does not work, so easy to debug.

> Using a
> negative feature bit is uglier, but also clearer. I suppose we want to
> be able to make stream sockets optional? If so, I think the negative
> approach is the better option, unless we can live with some broken
> setups.

I think we can live with broken setups personally. new features
are often broken in linux, c'est la vie.

-- 
MST


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-13 13:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-12 17:09 [PATCH v11 0/3] virtio-vsock: SOCK_SEQPACKET description Stefano Garzarella
2022-01-12 17:09 ` [PATCH v11 1/3] virtio-vsock: use C style defines for constants Stefano Garzarella
2022-01-12 17:09 ` [PATCH v11 2/3] virtio-vsock: add VIRTIO_VSOCK_F_STREAM feature bit Stefano Garzarella
2022-01-12 17:09 ` [PATCH v11 3/3] virtio-vsock: SOCK_SEQPACKET description Stefano Garzarella
2022-01-13 10:50 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH v11 0/3] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-13 11:22   ` Stefano Garzarella
2022-01-13 11:34     ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-13 13:57       ` Stefano Garzarella
2022-01-13 14:06         ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-13 14:16           ` Stefano Garzarella
2022-01-13 15:11           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-13 16:33             ` Stefano Garzarella
2022-01-13 13:19   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2022-01-13 13:52 ` Stefano Garzarella

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