From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: zhenwei pi <pizhenwei@bytedance.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
parav@nvidia.com, stefanha@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org, houp@yusur.tech,
helei.sig11@bytedance.com, xinhao.kong@duke.edu
Subject: Re: Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 01/11] transport-fabrics: introduce Virtio Over Fabrics overview
Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 06:05:12 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230504060313-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1a0b973a-11b0-6b24-f118-902a5809f7d1@bytedance.com>
On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 05:46:46PM +0800, zhenwei pi wrote:
>
>
> On 5/4/23 16:57, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > On 04.05.23 10:19, zhenwei pi wrote:
> > > In the past years, virtio supports lots of device specifications by
> > > PCI/MMIO/CCW. These devices work fine in the virtualization environment.
> > >
> > > Introduce Virtio Over Fabrics transport to support "network defined
> > > peripheral devices". With this transport, Many Virtio based devices
> > > transparently work over fabrics. Note that the balloon device may not
> > > make sense. Shared memory regions won't work.
> >
> > Anything that involves memory (memory balloon, memory device, shared
> > memory) is fully incompatible I would guess.
> >
>
> Hi,
>
> Agree that memory device and shared memory is incompatible.
>
> But memory balloon device, I don't know if it's possible to use in future.
> As far as I can imagine: a user process runs virtio-of target by listening
> localhost, and memory balloon isolates same pages from kernel, the user
> process maps these physical pages into virtual memory ...
I don't see anything big that is wrong with balloon. device inflates
balloon, this memory is stolen from guest. isn't this what user
wanted? presumably there's a way for device to send this
information to the hypervisor otherwise it seems kind of
pointless.
--
MST
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2023-05-04 8:18 [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 00/11] Introduce Virtio Over Fabrics zhenwei pi
2023-05-04 8:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 01/11] transport-fabrics: introduce Virtio Over Fabrics overview zhenwei pi
2023-05-04 8:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-04 9:46 ` zhenwei pi
2023-05-04 10:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-05-04 10:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-04 10:50 ` Re: " zhenwei pi
2023-05-31 14:00 ` [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-02 1:17 ` [virtio-comment] " zhenwei pi
2023-06-05 2:39 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-05 2:39 ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-04 8:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 02/11] transport-fabrics: introduce Virtio Qualified Name zhenwei pi
2023-05-31 14:06 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-02 1:50 ` zhenwei pi
2023-06-05 2:40 ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-05 7:57 ` zhenwei pi
2023-06-05 17:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-04 8:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 03/11] transport-fabircs: introduce Segment Descriptor Definition zhenwei pi
2023-05-31 14:23 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-02 3:08 ` zhenwei pi
2023-06-05 2:40 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-04 8:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 04/11] transport-fabrics: introduce Stream Transmission zhenwei pi
2023-05-31 15:20 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-02 2:26 ` zhenwei pi
2023-06-05 16:11 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-06 3:13 ` zhenwei pi
2023-06-06 13:09 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-04 8:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 05/11] transport-fabrics: introduce Keyed Transmission zhenwei pi
2023-05-31 16:20 ` [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-01 9:02 ` zhenwei pi
2023-06-01 11:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-01 13:09 ` zhenwei pi
2023-06-01 19:13 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-01 21:23 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-02 0:55 ` zhenwei pi
2023-06-05 17:21 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-05 2:41 ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-05 8:41 ` zhenwei pi
2023-06-05 11:45 ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-05 12:50 ` zhenwei pi
2023-06-05 13:12 ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 7:13 ` zhenwei pi
2023-06-06 21:52 ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-04 8:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 06/11] transport-fabrics: introduce command set zhenwei pi
2023-05-31 17:10 ` [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-02 5:15 ` [virtio-comment] " zhenwei pi
2023-06-05 16:30 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-06 1:31 ` [virtio-comment] " zhenwei pi
2023-06-06 13:34 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-07 2:58 ` [virtio-comment] " zhenwei pi
2023-06-08 16:41 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-08 17:01 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-09 1:39 ` [virtio-comment] " zhenwei pi
2023-06-09 2:06 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-09 3:55 ` zhenwei pi
2023-06-11 20:56 ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 2:02 ` [virtio-comment] " zhenwei pi
2023-06-06 13:44 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-07 2:03 ` [virtio-comment] " zhenwei pi
2023-05-04 8:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 07/11] transport-fabrics: introduce opcodes zhenwei pi
2023-05-31 17:11 ` [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
[not found] ` <20230531205508.GA1509630@fedora>
2023-06-02 8:39 ` [virtio-comment] " zhenwei pi
2023-06-05 16:46 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-05-04 8:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 08/11] transport-fabrics: introduce status of completion zhenwei pi
2023-05-04 8:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 09/11] transport-fabrics: add TCP&RDMA binding zhenwei pi
[not found] ` <20230531210255.GC1509630@fedora>
2023-06-02 9:07 ` [virtio-comment] Re: " zhenwei pi
2023-06-05 16:57 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-06 1:41 ` [virtio-comment] " zhenwei pi
2023-06-06 13:51 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-06-07 2:15 ` zhenwei pi
2023-05-04 8:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 10/11] transport-fabrics: add device initialization zhenwei pi
[not found] ` <20230531210925.GD1509630@fedora>
2023-06-02 9:11 ` zhenwei pi
2023-05-04 8:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 11/11] transport-fabrics: support inline data for keyed transmission zhenwei pi
2023-05-29 0:56 ` [virtio-comment] PING: [PATCH v2 00/11] Introduce Virtio Over Fabrics zhenwei pi
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