From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Zhu, Lingshan" <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>,
"virtio@lists.oasis-open.org" <virtio@lists.oasis-open.org>,
"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>,
Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
"hengqi@linux.alibaba.com" <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: [virtio-comment] Re: proposal: use admin command (and aq) of the device to query config space
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 07:53:48 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230802075306-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM8PR12MB548060C7A27EFF9719FD1987DC0BA@DM8PR12MB5480.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
On Wed, Aug 02, 2023 at 11:51:21AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
>
>
> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2023 5:05 PM
>
> > > I said the opposite above, get and set is INBAND from guest driver to device
> > for PF, VF and SIOV through its own delegated resource.
> > > There is no AQ mediation from host.
> > > Hence, there is no risk.
> >
> > I think there are different requirements from different people.
> Yes.
> There are two requirements.
> 1. Build SIOV device that can live in hypervisor for having 1.x based PCI device in guest
>
> 2. Build SIOV device ground up that does not need to have existing limitations of 1.x.
>
> The transport VQ proposal 4 patches had heavy inclination for #1 without mentioning the real objective in the cover letter.
> I was proposing that when virtio builds SIOV device it should start with #2.
> Because #1 is sort of handled with sr-iov or vdpa already.
>
> #2 is more critical to get it right, after SIOV R2 spec is defined.
Can't we address both? E.g. use a different group type.
>
> > For example,
> > consider compatibility. I know it looks like super important right now, and we
> > should make it possible, but it's just like with legacy interface - looked very far
> > away when we introduced non-transitional, to the point where an option in
> > linux to disable legacy talks about "flying cars", but the flying cars are nowhere
> > to be seen and, while we are not where everyone can just drop pre-1.0 bits, a
> > bunch of people are using e.g. vdpa without any legacy, express devices in
> > qemu also disabled legacy, and so on.
> >
> >
> > --
> > MST
>
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Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-01 7:09 [virtio-comment] proposal: use admin command (and aq) of the device to query config space Parav Pandit
2023-08-02 4:20 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-02 4:33 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-08-02 8:45 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-02 8:59 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-08-02 9:40 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-02 10:00 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-08-02 11:35 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-02 11:51 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-08-02 11:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-08-02 11:58 ` Parav Pandit
2023-08-02 12:10 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-02 8:53 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-08-02 9:07 ` Parav Pandit
2023-08-02 9:32 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] " Jason Wang
2023-08-02 9:57 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-08-02 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-02 11:29 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-08-02 11:39 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-02 11:44 ` Parav Pandit
2023-08-02 11:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-02 11:56 ` Parav Pandit
2023-08-02 12:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-03 2:55 ` Jason Wang
2023-08-03 10:13 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
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