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Tsirkin" To: "Zhu, Lingshan" Cc: Parav Pandit , Jason Wang , "eperezma@redhat.com" , Stefan Hajnoczi , "virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org" , "virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org" Message-ID: <20230926064201-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH 0/5] virtio: introduce SUSPEND bit and vq state On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 05:25:42PM +0800, Zhu, Lingshan wrote: > We don't want to repeat the discussions, it looks like endless circle with > no direction. OK let me try to direct this discussion. You guys were speaking past each other, no dialog is happening. And as long as it goes on no progress will be made and you will keep going in circles. Parav here made an effort and attempted to summarize use-cases addressed by your proposal but not his. He couldn't resist adding "a yes but" in there oh well. But now I hope you know he knows about your use-cases? So please do the same. Do you see any advantages to Parav's proposal as compared to yours? Try to list them and if possible try not to accompany the list with "yes but" (put it in a separate mail if you must ;) ). If you won't be able to see any, let me know and I'll try to help. Once each of you and Parav have finally heard the other and the other also knows he's been heard, that's when we can try to make progress by looking for something that addresses all use-cases as opposed to endlessly repeating same arguments. -- MST This publicly archived list offers a means to provide input to the OASIS Virtual I/O Device (VIRTIO) TC. In order to verify user consent to the Feedback License terms and to minimize spam in the list archive, subscription is required before posting. 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