From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Zhu, Lingshan" <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
Cc: jasowang@redhat.com, eperezma@redhat.com, cohuck@redhat.com,
stefanha@redhat.com, virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
parav@nvidia.com
Subject: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH V2 6/6] virtio-pci: implement dirty page tracking
Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2023 11:16:54 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231105111232-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a9103f82-c95e-47a6-9284-667c1c991aba@intel.com>
On Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at 10:32:59PM +0800, Zhu, Lingshan wrote:
>
>
> On 11/3/2023 6:50 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at 06:34:37PM +0800, Zhu Lingshan wrote:
>
> +\item[\field{bitmap_addr}]
> + The driver use this to set the address of the bitmap which records the dirty pages
> + caused by the device.
> + Each bit in the bitmap represents one memory page, bit 0 in the bitmap
> + reprsents page 0 at address 0, bit 1 represents page 1, and so on in a linear manner.
> + When \field{enable} is set to 1 and the device writes to a memory page,
> + the device MUST set the corresponding bit to 1 which indicating the page is dirty.
> +\item[\field{bitmap_length}]
> + The driver use this to set the length in bytes of the bitmap.
> +\end{description}
> +
> +\devicenormative{\subsubsection}{Memory Dirty Pages Tracker Capability}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / Memory Dirty Pages Tracker Capability}
> +
> +The device MUST NOT set any bits beyond bitmap_length when reporting dirty pages.
> +
> +To prevent a read-modify-write procedure, if a memory page is dirty,
> +optionally the device is permitted to set the entire byte, which encompasses the relevant bit, to 1.
> +
> +The device MAY increase \field{gra_power} to reduce \field{bitmap_length}.
> +
> +The device must ignore any writes to \field{pasid} if PASID Extended Capability is absent or
> +the PASID functionality is disabled in PASID Extended Capability
>
>
> I have to say this is going to work very badly when the number of dirty
> pages is small: you will end up scanning and re-scanning all of bitmap.
>
> The driver needs to scan anyway,
Not with e.g. Parav's proposal - device reports individual pages
changed. This is analogous to PML.
> Intel production work with similar bitmap
> based dirty page tracking solution for years.
and then VMs became bigger and PML was introduced.
> Otherwise the device should report PFN which is not very practical.
Why not?
> And the resolution is apparently 8 pages? You have just multiplied
> the migration bandwidth by a factor of 8.
>
> No, as described in the comments, the tacking granularity is controlled by \
> field{gra_power}, one bit represents a page with page_size = 2^(12 +
> gra_power). This can also be used to reduce the size of the bitmap.
.. at the cost of increasing migration bandwidth.
> "To prevent a read-modify-write procedure, if a memory page is dirty,
> optionally the device is permitted to set the entire byte, which encompasses the relevant bit, to 1."
>
> This is optional and DMA is very likely to write a neighbor page, and the device transmit a whole byte anyway
> when a bit is dirty.
>
> How about we use platform dirty page tracking facility then implement this in virtio, as Jason suggested?
>
Without something like PML it likely won't scale either.
--
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2023-11-03 10:34 [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 0/6] introduce basic facilities for virito live migration Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-03 10:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 1/6] virtio: introduce virtqueue state Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-03 11:35 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-03 14:39 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 11:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-03 14:49 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 9:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 9:42 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 9:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 8:11 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 8:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08 4:08 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 10:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 2/6] virtio: introduce SUSPEND bit in device status Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-03 11:35 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-03 14:55 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 15:54 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 3:29 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 4:07 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 9:21 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 10:52 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 8:21 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 8:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 9:24 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-08 7:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 9:43 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 9:09 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-08 17:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09 9:55 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 10:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 3/6] virtio: dont reset vqs when SUSPEND Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-06 9:49 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 9:27 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-08 17:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09 9:58 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-09 10:15 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-10 6:22 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-10 6:31 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-13 9:23 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-15 17:35 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-16 10:09 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-16 10:19 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-16 12:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 10:13 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-17 11:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22 1:41 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-22 7:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-13 3:34 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-15 17:39 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-16 4:19 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-16 5:27 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-16 10:12 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-21 7:33 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-21 16:32 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22 5:28 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-22 6:11 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-24 3:35 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-24 9:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 11:50 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-24 12:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 13:01 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-24 14:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-27 6:38 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-27 8:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-27 9:54 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-21 21:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22 1:51 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-22 6:47 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22 10:04 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-22 10:14 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22 6:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22 10:03 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-22 13:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22 5:28 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-22 6:32 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-24 3:25 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-24 6:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 6:28 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-24 6:43 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-24 8:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 11:51 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-03 10:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 4/6] virtio-pci: implement VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-03 11:35 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-03 14:57 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 15:50 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 3:31 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 4:12 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 9:27 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 10:52 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 9:31 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-08 17:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09 10:00 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-09 10:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-10 6:52 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-10 12:31 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-13 3:46 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-13 9:23 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-15 17:36 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-09 6:28 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-09 8:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09 9:10 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-09 9:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09 10:11 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-09 10:09 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-09 10:25 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-10 7:52 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-10 12:31 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-13 9:25 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-15 17:35 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-16 10:14 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-16 10:21 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 10:02 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-17 10:06 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-21 4:30 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-21 16:26 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22 4:15 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-22 7:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22 7:33 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22 14:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 10:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22 1:32 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-22 6:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08 17:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-13 9:29 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-13 10:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-03 10:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 5/6] virtio: introduce dirty page tracking facility Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-03 11:35 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-03 14:11 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 10:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH V2 6/6] virtio-pci: implement dirty page tracking Zhu Lingshan
2023-11-03 10:46 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-03 14:21 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 9:16 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 10:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 9:43 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 10:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-03 10:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-03 11:35 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-03 15:02 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-03 15:47 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-05 16:12 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 3:58 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 10:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 9:48 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 4:03 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 11:13 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08 9:29 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-08 17:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09 10:29 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-09 10:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-10 7:24 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 3:52 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 4:34 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 9:34 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 10:52 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 11:05 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 11:07 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 11:21 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 9:52 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 11:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08 9:30 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-08 17:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09 10:34 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-06 11:13 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 10:01 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 10:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 11:12 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 11:24 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-08 7:11 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-08 7:16 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 11:31 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08 9:36 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 12:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 10:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 11:21 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06 11:27 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 11:31 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-07 10:02 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-07 11:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-05 16:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-06 3:51 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-03 14:32 ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-05 16:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
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2023-11-07 11:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-07 8:01 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH V2 0/6] introduce basic facilities for virito live migration Michael S. Tsirkin
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