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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Lege Wang <lege.wang@jaguarmicro.com>
Cc: "virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev" <virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev>,
	"vattunuru@marvell.com" <vattunuru@marvell.com>,
	"ndabilpuram@marvell.com" <ndabilpuram@marvell.com>,
	"parav@nvidia.com" <parav@nvidia.com>,
	Leo Liu <leo.liu@jaguarmicro.com>,
	Angus Chen <angus.chen@jaguarmicro.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] VIRTIO_F_USED_EVENT_AUTO_DISABLE: add new used buffer notification suppression mechanism
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:34:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240703083151-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SI2PR06MB53851F07C15BDC46C74079B5FFDD2@SI2PR06MB5385.apcprd06.prod.outlook.com>

On Wed, Jul 03, 2024 at 12:14:01PM +0000, Lege Wang wrote:
> hi,
> 
> > > > After reading this and the text, I can't figure out how is this feature
> > > > supposed to work without races.  What if the device uses a buffer while
> > > > the driver notification is in flight to the device?
> > > Hmm, I think it doesn't matter, Only the used buffer enable notification is
> > > transmitted to device successfully, device starts to judge whether it's time
> > > to send used buffer notification to driver according to its internal interrupt
> > policy.
> > 
> > I don't understand what you are saying. If device has some magical
> > interrupt policy why do we need a notification from the driver
> > at all.
> > 
> > Conversely, if device relies on the notification and thinks that an
> > interrupt is not needed (because it did not get the notification yet),
> > while at the same time the driver is blocked waiting for an interrupt,
> > we get a deadlock.
> No, I'm not saying that our interrupt policy is magical?? Let me explain a bit
> more about its simple mechanism here, there're two basic parameters to control
> whether device should send used buffer notification to driver:
>   1. number of used ring entries written since last used buffer notification to driver, 
>     say threshold value is N.
>   2. Max wait time to send a used buffer notification to driver.
> 
> The work flow would look like below:
> 1. driver enables used buffer notification initially when enabling virtio device
> 2. driver is blocked waiting interrupt.
> 3. if the number of used ring entries written by device is equal to or greater than above threshold N,
>   a used buffered notification is sent to driver immediately, or if this condition is not met, but the period
>   specified by max wait time has reached, device will still send one used buffer notification to driver.
>   And device will recount number of used ring entries written by device from zero and start another
>   Max wait time timer.
> 4. driver is waken up by interrupt, after it has processed used ring entries, it'll start to wait for interrupt
>   again and enable used buffer notification.
> 5. go to step 2.
> 
> >From above work flow, I don't think the deadlock you describe would happen.
> 
> Regards,
> Xiaoguang Wang

1. device sends an interrupt
2. device writes a used entry

Will another interrupt be sent, with driver doing nothing at all?



> > 
> > 
> > --
> > MST


  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-03 12:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-01  3:44 [PATCH] VIRTIO_F_USED_EVENT_AUTO_DISABLE: add new used buffer notification suppression mechanism Xiaoguang Wang
2024-07-01  8:24 ` Lege Wang
2024-07-02  1:15 ` Xuan Zhuo
2024-07-02  5:30   ` [EXTERNAL] " Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2024-07-02  7:40 ` Jason Wang
2024-07-03  4:32   ` Lege Wang
2024-07-03  5:10     ` Jason Wang
2024-07-03  7:37       ` Lege Wang
2024-07-03  7:59         ` Jason Wang
2024-07-03  8:36           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-03  8:47             ` Jason Wang
2024-07-03  9:08               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-04  5:37                 ` Jason Wang
2024-07-04  8:30                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-05  5:48                     ` Jason Wang
2024-07-05  7:48                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-08  1:39                         ` Jason Wang
2024-07-02 12:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-03  6:52   ` Lege Wang
2024-07-03  8:28     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-03 12:14       ` Lege Wang
2024-07-03 12:34         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2024-07-04  2:27           ` Lege Wang
2024-07-05  7:57             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-05 11:12               ` Lege Wang
2024-07-05 11:29                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-05  3:35 ` Lege Wang
2024-07-05  4:42   ` Parav Pandit
2024-07-05  7:52     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-08  2:37       ` Parav Pandit
2024-07-05  8:25     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-07-08  2:33       ` Parav Pandit
2024-07-05  8:00   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-11-05 16:23     ` [EXTERNAL] " Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2024-11-06  4:33       ` Jason Wang
2024-11-06 11:11         ` Vamsi Krishna Attunuru
2024-11-06  7:40       ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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