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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev" <virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev>,
	"mie@igel.co.jp" <mie@igel.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] transport-pci: Add MSI support
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 02:30:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240930022818-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <IA0PR12MB8713D97523757F1FDD6D3525DC762@IA0PR12MB8713.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 05:45:48AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> 
> 
> > From: Manivannan Sadhasivam <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2024 11:02 AM
> > 
> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 09:51:43PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 07:31:44PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > > > MSI is the predecessor of MSI-X that allows PCIe devices to send
> > > > interrupts to the host. Compared to MSI-X, MSI supports only a
> > > > maximum of 32 vectors per PCIe function. But MSI has been widely
> > > > supported by the PCIe devices requiring fewer interrupts such as
> > Modems, WLAN cards etc...
> > > >
> > > > Currently, Virtio spec only documents MSI-X and INTX interrupt
> > > > mechanisms for the PCI transport. So if a Virtio device based on PCI
> > > > transport supports only MSI, then the driver on the guest will only
> > > > use INTX for receiving the interrupts. This is really sub-optimal
> > > > and affects the performance of the device. Because with MSI, the
> > > > device can use one vector per queue (max of 32 vectors) thus
> > > > avoiding the overhead associated with a shared INTX vector.
> > > >
> > > > Hence, add support for MSI to the Virtio PCI transport. MSI support
> > > > is added such a way that it reuses the existing infrastructure of
> > > > MSI-X, like the config_msix_vector/queue_msix_vector fields of the
> > > > Virtio common config structure. This makes it easy for the Virtio
> > > > drivers to add MSI support without any disruptive changes.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Gentle ping!
> > >
> > 
> > Ping again. Virtio maintainers, can you please share some feedback?
> >
> Overall looks to me.
> A small comment below on single MSI vector.
> 
>  
> > - Mani
> > 
> > > - Mani
> > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Manivannan Sadhasivam
> > > > <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>
> > > > ---
> > > >
> > > > Changes in v2:
> > > >
> > > > * Fixed a spelling mistake in commit message
> > > > * Removed update to legacy interface
> > > > * Used 'MSI vector' consistently
> > > >
> > > >  transport-pci.tex | 115
> > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------
> > > >  1 file changed, 92 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/transport-pci.tex b/transport-pci.tex index
> > > > a5c6719..fd92641 100644
> > > > --- a/transport-pci.tex
> > > > +++ b/transport-pci.tex
> > > > @@ -347,7 +347,7 @@ \subsubsection{Common configuration structure
> > layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport
> > > >          Driver Feature Bits selected by \field{driver_feature_select}.
> > > >
> > > >  \item[\field{config_msix_vector}]
> > > > -        Set by the driver to the MSI-X vector for configuration change
> > notifications.
> > > > +        Set by the driver to the MSI/MSI-X vector for configuration change
> > notifications.
> > > >
> > > >  \item[\field{num_queues}]
> > > >          The device specifies the maximum number of virtqueues supported
> > here.
> > > > @@ -371,7 +371,7 @@ \subsubsection{Common configuration structure
> > layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport
> > > >          A 0 means the queue is unavailable.
> > > >
> > > >  \item[\field{queue_msix_vector}]
> > > > -        Set by the driver to the MSI-X vector for virtqueue notifications.
> > > > +        Set by the driver to the MSI/MSI-X vector for virtqueue
> > notifications.
> > > >
> > > >  \item[\field{queue_enable}]
> > > >          The driver uses this to selectively prevent the device from executing
> > requests from this virtqueue.
> > > > @@ -631,11 +631,11 @@ \subsubsection{ISR status
> > > > capability}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virti  in
> > > > \field{ISR status} before sending a device configuration  change
> > notification to the driver.
> > > >
> > > > -If MSI-X capability is disabled, the device MUST set the Queue
> > > > +If MSI/MSI-X capability is disabled, the device MUST set the Queue
> > > >  Interrupt bit in \field{ISR status} before sending a virtqueue
> > > > notification to the driver.
> > > >
> > > > -If MSI-X capability is disabled, the device MUST set the Interrupt
> > > > Status
> > > > +If MSI/MSI-X capability is disabled, the device MUST set the
> > > > +Interrupt Status
> > > >  bit in the PCI Status register in the PCI Configuration Header of
> > > > the device to the logical OR of all bits in \field{ISR status} of
> > > > the device.  The device then asserts/deasserts INT\#x interrupts
> > > > unless masked @@ -645,7 +645,7 @@ \subsubsection{ISR status
> > > > capability}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virti
> > > >
> > > >  \drivernormative{\paragraph}{ISR status capability}{Virtio
> > > > Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / ISR
> > > > status capability}
> > > >
> > > > -If MSI-X capability is enabled, the driver SHOULD NOT access
> > > > +If MSI/MSI-X capability is enabled, the driver SHOULD NOT access
> > > >  \field{ISR status} upon detecting a Queue Interrupt.
> > > >
> > > >  \subsubsection{Device-specific configuration}\label{sec:Virtio
> > > > Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout /
> > > > Device-specific configuration} @@ -1017,7 +1017,7 @@
> > > > \subsubsection{Device Initialization}\label{sec:Virtio Transport
> > > > Options / Virti  \drivernormative{\subparagraph}{MSI-X Vector
> > > > Configuration}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus /
> > > > PCI-specific Initialization And Device Operation / Device
> > > > Initialization / MSI-X Vector Configuration}
> > > >
> > > >  Driver MUST support device with any MSI-X Table Size 0 to 0x7FF.
> > > > -Driver MAY fall back on using INT\#x interrupts for a device
> > > > +Driver MAY fall back on using MSI or INT\#x interrupts for a device
> > > >  which only supports one MSI-X vector (MSI-X Table Size = 0).
> > > >
> > > >  Driver MAY interpret the Table Size as a hint from the device @@
> > > > -1034,6 +1034,75 @@ \subsubsection{Device
> > > > Initialization}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virti  the
> > > > driver MAY retry mapping with fewer vectors, disable MSI-X  or report
> > device failure.
> > > >
> > > > +\paragraph{MSI Vector Configuration}\label{sec:Virtio Transport
> > > > +Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI-specific Initialization And
> > > > +Device Operation / Device Initialization / MSI Vector
> > > > +Configuration}
> > > > +
> > > > +When MSI capability is present and enabled in the device (through
> > > > +standard PCI configuration space) \field{config_msix_vector} and
> > > > +\field{queue_msix_vector} are used to map configuration change and
> > queue interrupts to MSI vectors. In this case, the ISR Status is unused.
> > > > +
> > > > +Writing a valid MSI vector, 0 to 0x1F, to
> > > > +\field{config_msix_vector}/\field{queue_msix_vector} maps
> > > > +interrupts triggered by the configuration change/selected queue
> > > > +events respectively to the corresponding MSI vector. To disable
> > > > +interrupts for an event type, the driver unmaps this event by
> > > > +writing a special NO_VECTOR
> > > > +value:
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > > +/* Vector value used to disable MSI for queue */
> > > > +#define VIRTIO_MSI_NO_VECTOR            0xffff
> > > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > > +
> > > > +Note that mapping an event to vector might require device to
> > > > +allocate internal device resources, and thus could fail.
> > > > +
> > > > +\devicenormative{\subparagraph}{MSI Vector Configuration}{Virtio
> > > > +Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI-specific
> > > > +Initialization And Device Operation / Device Initialization / MSI
> > > > +Vector Configuration}
> > > > +
> > > > +A device that has an MSI capability SHOULD support at least 2 and
> > > > +at most 0x20 MSI vectors.
> > > > +Device MUST report the number of vectors supported in
> > > > +\field{Multiple Message Capable} field in the MSI Capability as
> > > > +specified in \hyperref[intro:PCI]{[PCI]}.
> > > > +The device SHOULD restrict the reported MSI Multiple Message
> > > > +Capable field to a value that might benefit system performance.
> > > > +\begin{note}
> > > > +For example, a device which does not expect to send interrupts at a
> > > > +high rate might only specify 2 MSI vectors.
> > > > +\end{note}
> > > > +Device MUST support mapping any event type to any valid vector 0 to
> > > > +number of MSI vectors specified in \field{Multiple Message Capable}
> > field.
> > > > +Device MUST support unmapping any event type.
> > > > +
> > > > +The device MUST return vector mapped to a given event, (NO_VECTOR
> > > > +if unmapped) on read of
> > \field{config_msix_vector}/\field{queue_msix_vector}.
> > > > +The device MUST have all queue and configuration change events
> > > > +unmapped upon reset.
> > > > +
> > > > +Devices SHOULD NOT cause mapping an event to vector to fail unless
> > > > +it is impossible for the device to satisfy the mapping request.
> > > > +Devices MUST report mapping failures by returning the NO_VECTOR
> > > > +value when the relevant
> > > > +\field{config_msix_vector}/\field{queue_msix_vector} field is read.
> > > > +
> > > > +\drivernormative{\subparagraph}{MSI Vector Configuration}{Virtio
> > > > +Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI-specific
> > > > +Initialization And Device Operation / Device Initialization / MSI
> > > > +Vector Configuration}
> > > > +
> > > > +Driver MUST support device with any MSI vector from 0 to 0x1F.
> > > > +Driver MAY fall back on using INT\#x interrupts for a device which
> > > > +only supports one MSI vector (MSI Multiple Message Capable = 0).
> > > > +
> A single MSI (and MSI-X) vector is still far more optimal than INTx due to the inefficiency of the INTx delivery on PCIe transport.

And lack of support on VFs.

> And for sw based devices, it anyway doesnt matter a lot either.
> 
> So when a new functionality like MSI is added, it does not need to continue what MSI-X has done.
> 
> So I request you to remove this guidance of INTx fallback on single MSI vector.

Let's provide an alternative guidance then.
Device SHOULD implement at least 2 MSI vectors?

> Rest all looks fine to me.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-30  6:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-12 14:01 [PATCH v2] transport-pci: Add MSI support Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-07-24 16:21 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-09-03  5:32   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-09-30  5:45     ` Parav Pandit
2024-09-30  6:30       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2024-09-30  6:42         ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-09-30  7:01           ` Parav Pandit
2024-09-30  7:10             ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-09-30  7:15               ` Parav Pandit
2024-09-30  7:25                 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-10-01 14:37                   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2024-09-30 13:53           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-10-08  3:33             ` Zhu Lingshan

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