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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Bertrand Marquis <Bertrand.Marquis@arm.com>
Cc: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
	"Bill Mills (bill.mills@linaro.org)" <bill.mills@linaro.org>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev" <virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev>,
	"Edgar E . Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@amd.com>,
	Arnaud Pouliquen <arnaud.pouliquen@foss.st.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Alex Bennee <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	Armelle Laine <armellel@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/4] virtio-msg transport layer
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2026 05:08:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260225050544-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68274D80-562E-44D5-83DD-34BC2D750274@arm.com>

On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 10:01:45AM +0000, Bertrand Marquis wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I frankly expect an ARM FF-A bus binding transport section in virtio-spec.
> >>>> So that device and driver can inter-operate implemented by two different entities.
> >>>> Only virtio level messages do not seem sufficient.
> >>>
> >>> I agree at least one should be shown at least as an rfc.
> >>
> >> Here is a link to the current virtio message bus over FF-A specification:
> >> https://developer.arm.com/documentation/den0153/0101/
> >>
> >> 1.0 Alpha 1 version in sync with this version of the virtio message spec will be released later today, you will be redirected to
> >> 1.0 Alpha 0 version until it is  which is in sync with the previous RFC we sent.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Bertrand
> >>
> >>
> >> IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
> >
> >
> > thanks. pls include that in the series as [PATCH RFC 5/4]
> >
> 
> We are not planning to have this included in the virtio specification but maintained by arm as an independent specification.
> FF-A is an arm specification and as such virtio message bus over FF-A is arm specific.
> 
> We can reference it as a bus specification example in the virtio specification if you want (as an external link).

Surely, you should. 


But for a variety of reasons, including the fact that they should be
developed in lockstep, and others, please include it in the list with
"RFC  do not apply" subject.


> Regards
> Bertrand
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-25 10:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-26 16:32 [PATCH v1 0/4] virtio-msg transport layer Bill Mills
2026-01-26 16:32 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] virtio-msg: add new command for bus normative Bill Mills
2026-02-03 19:42   ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2026-01-26 16:32 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] virtio-msg: Add virtio-msg, a message based virtio transport layer Bill Mills
2026-02-06 16:28   ` Peter Hilber
2026-02-10  9:39     ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-12 11:16       ` Peter Hilber
2026-02-20  8:23         ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-26 13:53           ` Peter Hilber
2026-02-13 19:09   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-20  8:52     ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-21  2:04       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-23  7:44         ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-24 15:41   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-24 16:14     ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-24 17:36     ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2026-02-24 17:14   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-24 17:20     ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-24 17:46       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25  7:26         ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 12:36   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 12:46     ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-01-26 16:32 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] virtio-msg: link virtio-msg content Bill Mills
2026-02-03 19:43   ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2026-01-26 16:32 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] virtio-msg: add conformance entries in conformance chapter Bill Mills
2026-02-03 19:43   ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2026-01-26 21:47 ` [PATCH v1 0/4] virtio-msg transport layer Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-03 13:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-03 19:48   ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2026-02-03 19:55     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-04  8:33   ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-04 13:50   ` Arnaud POULIQUEN
2026-02-04  3:29 ` Viresh Kumar
2026-02-04  5:34 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-13 13:52 ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-13 19:45   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-19 17:31     ` Armelle Laine
2026-02-20  8:55     ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-19 23:54   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-20  6:13     ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-20  9:02       ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25  7:45         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-25  8:03           ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25  8:12             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25 10:06             ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-25 10:10               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25 10:14               ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 10:22               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25 10:53                 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-25 10:24               ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-25 10:35                 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 10:52                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25 10:55                     ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 10:58                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25 14:45                   ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-25 14:49                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25 14:53                       ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 15:00                         ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-25 15:07                           ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-25 15:12                             ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 15:15                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25 15:36                               ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 15:40                                 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 15:48                                   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 15:51                                     ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 16:15                                       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-26  5:40                               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-26  7:05                                 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 15:11                           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-25 15:15                             ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-26  5:36                               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-26  5:59                                 ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-26  6:19                                   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-26  7:01                                 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-26  7:28                                   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-26 19:20                                 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-26 22:08                                   ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2026-02-25 15:23                           ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 16:42                         ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2026-02-25 12:53           ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 13:09             ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-25 13:12               ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 13:29                 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 15:19                   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 15:27                     ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-20 10:03       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25  5:09         ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-25  7:25           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25  9:18             ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-25  9:22               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25  9:35                 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25  9:54                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25 10:01                     ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 10:08                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2026-02-20  8:58     ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-20  8:40   ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25  4:58     ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-25  7:52       ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 12:46         ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 13:05           ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 13:09             ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 15:17         ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-24 17:57 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 15:21   ` Alex Bennée
2026-02-25 15:46     ` Demi Marie Obenour

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