From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel.org>
Cc: Bertrand Marquis <Bertrand.Marquis@arm.com>,
Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
"Bill Mills (bill.mills@linaro.org)" <bill.mills@linaro.org>,
"virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev" <virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev>,
"Edgar E . Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@amd.com>,
Arnaud Pouliquen <arnaud.pouliquen@foss.st.com>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Alex Bennee <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
Armelle Laine <armellel@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/4] virtio-msg transport layer
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2026 05:22:32 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260225051849-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dyiwq5xhqeoaqmzquzzx4wxsptm6uvrnfgspi6vmcaucq6jn4l@6dvya4te4vsj>
On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 03:36:36PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > > But that being said, I somewhat agree with Parav that we should define the bus
> > > implementations in the spec to avoid fixing the ABI in the implementations. For
> > > instance, if we try to use this transport over PCI, we've got questions like:
> > >
> > > 1. How the device should be bind to the virtio-msg-pci bus driver and not with
> > > the existing virtio-pci driver? Should it use a new Vendor ID or Sub-IDs?
> >
> > One bus is appearing as one pci device with its own Vendor ID,
> >
>
> What should be the 'own Vendor ID' here?
>
> The existing virtio-pci driver binds to all devices with the Vendor ID of
> PCI_VENDOR_ID_REDHAT_QUMRANET. So are you expecting the Vendors to use their own
> VID for exposing the Virtio devices? That would mean, the drivers on the host
> need update as well, which will not scale.
>
> It would be good if the existing virtio-pci devices can use this new transport
> with only device side modifications.
ah maybe i misuderstand. you do not mean do not change drivers.
you mean a generic driver for everyone?
there are several ways to address this in pci
- use a shared vendor/device id: worked so far reasonably well for virtio.
we can allocate a new range of device ids or a new vendor id.
- class / prog ifc
it seems like a cleaner solution but will preclude declaring e.g.
a virtio net interface as a network interface.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-25 10:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-26 16:32 [PATCH v1 0/4] virtio-msg transport layer Bill Mills
2026-01-26 16:32 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] virtio-msg: add new command for bus normative Bill Mills
2026-02-03 19:42 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2026-01-26 16:32 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] virtio-msg: Add virtio-msg, a message based virtio transport layer Bill Mills
2026-02-06 16:28 ` Peter Hilber
2026-02-10 9:39 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-12 11:16 ` Peter Hilber
2026-02-20 8:23 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-26 13:53 ` Peter Hilber
2026-02-13 19:09 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-20 8:52 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-21 2:04 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-23 7:44 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-24 15:41 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-24 16:14 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-24 17:36 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2026-02-24 17:14 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-24 17:20 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-24 17:46 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 7:26 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 12:36 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 12:46 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-01-26 16:32 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] virtio-msg: link virtio-msg content Bill Mills
2026-02-03 19:43 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2026-01-26 16:32 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] virtio-msg: add conformance entries in conformance chapter Bill Mills
2026-02-03 19:43 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2026-01-26 21:47 ` [PATCH v1 0/4] virtio-msg transport layer Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-03 13:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-03 19:48 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2026-02-03 19:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-04 8:33 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-04 13:50 ` Arnaud POULIQUEN
2026-02-04 3:29 ` Viresh Kumar
2026-02-04 5:34 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-13 13:52 ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-13 19:45 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-19 17:31 ` Armelle Laine
2026-02-20 8:55 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-19 23:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-20 6:13 ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-20 9:02 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 7:45 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-25 8:03 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 8:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25 10:06 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-25 10:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25 10:14 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 10:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2026-02-25 10:53 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-25 10:24 ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-25 10:35 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 10:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25 10:55 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 10:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25 14:45 ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-25 14:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25 14:53 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 15:00 ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-25 15:07 ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-25 15:12 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 15:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25 15:36 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 15:40 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 15:48 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 15:51 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 16:15 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-26 5:40 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-26 7:05 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 15:11 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-25 15:15 ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-26 5:36 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-26 5:59 ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-26 6:19 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-26 7:01 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-26 7:28 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-26 19:20 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-26 22:08 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2026-02-25 15:23 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 16:42 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2026-02-25 12:53 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 13:09 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-02-25 13:12 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 13:29 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 15:19 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 15:27 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-20 10:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25 5:09 ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-25 7:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25 9:18 ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-25 9:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25 9:35 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 9:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-25 10:01 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 10:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-02-20 8:58 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-20 8:40 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 4:58 ` Parav Pandit
2026-02-25 7:52 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 12:46 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 13:05 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-25 13:09 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 15:17 ` Bertrand Marquis
2026-02-24 17:57 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-25 15:21 ` Alex Bennée
2026-02-25 15:46 ` Demi Marie Obenour
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