From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH] content: clarify feature negotiation terminology and init sequence
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2026 14:18:01 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260422140834-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260422180527.GB498202@fedora>
On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 02:05:27PM -0400, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 11:38:55AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > Make several clarifications to the init sequence documentation:
> >
> > The Linux virtio core (drivers/virtio/virtio.c) initializes devices
> > as follows:
> > 1. Intersect driver and device feature bits
> > 2. finalize_features() - write accepted features to the device
> > 3. drv->validate() - read config space, may clear feature bits
> > (e.g. virtio-net clears VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU if mtu < MIN_MTU,
> > balloon clears PAGE_POISON if guest does not init pages)
> > 4. If validate changed any features, finalize_features() again
> > 5. virtio_features_ok() - set FEATURES_OK, confirm with device
> >
> > this allows the device to know which fields will be read:
> > recommend this in the spec.
> >
> > Legacy driver detection is specified using a mechanism that
> > does not work on all transports. Make it clear that it's an
> > example: what matters is that devices do detection in some way
> > and are compatible with legacy drivers.
> >
> > Clarify the distinction between features written to the
> > device ("accepted") and features confirmed via FEATURES_OK
> > ("negotiated").
> >
> > "acknowledged" is used as a synonym for "accepted", but only in two
> > places. Just use "accepted" consistently.
> >
> > Spec describes multiple moving pieces then ends with "before accepting
> > it" - vague, and is overloading "accept". Replace with a reference to
> > FEATURES_OK.
> >
> > Fixes: https://github.com/oasis-tcs/virtio-spec/issues/241
> > Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > ---
> > content.tex | 31 ++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
> > 1 file changed, 24 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> > index 5de811f..3dcba31 100644
> > --- a/content.tex
> > +++ b/content.tex
> > @@ -39,7 +39,7 @@ \section{\field{Device Status} Field}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Dev
> > \item[DRIVER_OK (4)] Indicates that the driver is set up and ready to
> > drive the device.
> >
> > -\item[FEATURES_OK (8)] Indicates that the driver has acknowledged all the
> > +\item[FEATURES_OK (8)] Indicates that the driver has accepted all the
> > features it understands, and feature negotiation is complete.
> >
> > \item[SUSPEND (16)] When VIRTIO_F_SUSPEND is negotiated, indicates that the
> > @@ -89,13 +89,21 @@ \section{Feature Bits}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Feature B
> >
> > Each virtio device offers all the features it understands. During
> > device initialization, the driver reads this and tells the device the
> > -subset that it accepts. The only way to renegotiate is to reset
> > -the device.
> > +subset that it accepts. The device validates this subset and
> > +accepts it to complete the negotiation, or rejects it, leaving
> > +the negotiation incomplete. Once the negotiation is complete,
> > +the only way to renegotiate is to reset the device.
> > +
> > +A feature bit is \emph{accepted} once the driver has written it to the
> > +device.
>
> The above paragraph says the device "accepts" features too. Therefore it
> is confusing to define "accepted" as only require driver action in this
> sentence. Is it implied that the driver's write only completes when the
> device has also accepted the features? I think it would be simpler to
> avoid using the word "accept" in two different steps of the feature bit
> negotiation process.
We don't really need a new verb - we have negotiated for this.
+subset that it accepts. The device validates this subset and
+either completes the negotiation successfully (the last subset of features
that the driver accepted is consider negotiated then) or fails, leaving
+the feature negotiation incomplete. Once the negotiation is complete,
+the only way to renegotiate is to reset the device.
Hmm?
> > A feature bit is \emph{negotiated} once FEATURES_OK has been
> > +set and confirmed. Before FEATURES_OK is confirmed, features are
> > +accepted but not yet negotiated, and the device has not confirmed that it
> > +supports the combination selected by the driver.
> >
> > This allows for forwards and backwards compatibility: if the device is
> > enhanced with a new feature bit, older drivers will not write that
> > feature bit back to the device. Similarly, if a driver is enhanced with a feature
> > -that the device doesn't support, it see the new feature is not offered.
> > +that the device doesn't support, it will see that the new feature is not offered.
> >
> > Feature bits are allocated as follows:
> >
> > @@ -189,8 +197,8 @@ \subsection{Legacy Interface: A Note on Feature
> >
> > Transitional Drivers MUST detect Legacy Devices by detecting that
> > the feature bit VIRTIO_F_VERSION_1 is not offered.
> > -Transitional devices MUST detect Legacy drivers by detecting that
> > -VIRTIO_F_VERSION_1 has not been acknowledged by the driver.
> > +Transitional devices MUST detect Legacy drivers, e.g. by detecting that
> > +VIRTIO_F_VERSION_1 has not been accepted by the driver.
> >
> > In this case device is used through the legacy interface.
> >
> > @@ -314,6 +322,11 @@ \section{Device Configuration Space}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Devi
> > greater than the specified 8-bit size.
> > \end{note}
> >
> > +\drivernormative{\subsection}{Device Configuration Space}{Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Device Configuration Space}
> > +Before reading a device-specific configuration field that is
> > +conditional on a feature bit, the driver SHOULD first accept
> > +that feature bit.
> > +
> > \devicenormative{\subsection}{Device Configuration Space}{Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Device Configuration Space}
> > The device MUST allow reading of any device-specific configuration
> > field before FEATURES_OK is set by the driver. This includes fields which are
> > @@ -530,7 +543,11 @@ \section{Device Initialization}\label{sec:General Initialization And Device Oper
> > \item\label{itm:General Initialization And Device Operation /
> > Device Initialization / Read feature bits} Read device feature bits, and write the subset of feature bits
> > understood by the OS and driver to the device. During this step the
> > - driver MAY read (but MUST NOT write) the device-specific configuration fields to check that it can support the device before accepting it.
> > + driver MAY read (but MUST NOT write) the device-specific configuration
> > + fields to check that it can support the device before setting FEATURES_OK.
> > + The driver SHOULD accept feature bits before reading configuration
> > + fields conditional on them. The driver MAY then clear feature bits,
> > + write the updated subset to the device, and repeat this process.
>
> The last sentence is a little unclear to me. I think it's saying a
> driver can accept some feature bits, read the configuration space,
> and then change its mind and accept a subset of the previously accepted
> feature bits - all before setting FEATURES_OK.
>
> The part that confused me was "write the updated subset to the device". Can the "accept" language be used here?
> -> "accept this new subset of feature bits"
Good point, but we need to also tell the device. Let's use just that?
The driver MAY then accept a different subset of feature bits
(e.g., deciding, based on the configuration fields, not to use a certain feature),
tell the device about the updated subset, and repeat this process.
> >
> > \item\label{itm:General Initialization And Device Operation / Device Initialization / Set FEATURES-OK} Set the FEATURES_OK status bit. The driver MUST NOT accept
> > new feature bits after this step.
> > --
> > MST
> >
> >
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2026-04-22 15:38 [PATCH] content: clarify feature negotiation terminology and init sequence Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-22 18:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-04-22 18:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2026-04-23 16:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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