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Tsirkin" Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi , Albert Esteve , Alex =?iso-8859-1?Q?Benn=E9e?= , qemu-devel , virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev, dev@lists.cloudhypervisor.org, rust-vmm@lists.opendev.org, Stefano Garzarella , Manos Pitsidianakis , Demi Marie Obenour , Alyssa Ross , Mark Burton , Matti Moell , Viresh Kumar , Dorinda Bassey , Sergio Lopez , Vishwanath Seshagiri , Rob Bradford , Zhengyu Zhao , "Jorge E. Moreira" Subject: Re: Where should the vhost-user specification live? Message-ID: <20260601165824.GA428611@fedora> References: <874ijtz038.fsf@draig.linaro.org> <20260601083628-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <20260601090953-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <20260601102216-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Gas364zqSwtfrver" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20260601102216-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.4.1 on 10.30.177.93 --Gas364zqSwtfrver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 01, 2026 at 10:22:32AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > On Mon, Jun 01, 2026 at 09:51:40AM -0400, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2026 at 9:12=E2=80=AFAM Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 01, 2026 at 03:05:50PM +0200, Albert Esteve wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2026 at 2:39=E2=80=AFPM Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 01, 2026 at 02:32:11PM +0200, Albert Esteve wrote: > > > > > > But also because, in my opinion, separating > > > > > > the specification would improve development agility by decoupli= ng > > > > > > specification development from QEMU's review and release cycles. > > > > > > > > > > Generally for QEMU this will be less agility, unless I misunderst= and > > > > > what is proposed) > > > > > > > > > > Because presumably there will need to be spec releases then? > > > > > > > > > > So > > > > > new feature -> spec tree -> spec release -> qemu implemen= tation -> qemu release > > > > > > > > > > is surely longer that what we have now. > > > > > > > > I see your point. > > > > > > > > However, we do not really need to introduce a heavy release managem= ent > > > > layer. We could just operate it as a living document, where the main > > > > branch is the authoritative source of truth. > > > > > > > > For the workflow, development doesn't have to be strictly sequential > > > > either. A contributor can propose the spec update while working on = the > > > > implementation, much like we do for VirtIO updates. Actually, this = way > > > > one update/change supports the other. > > > > > > > > I guess my point is that a dedicated repository could lower the > > > > barrier for new changes AND keep QEMU's own development speed mostly > > > > unaffected. > > > > > > > > BR, > > > > Albert > > > > > > Something something submodule? Possibly. If you want to make progress > > > on this, pls think of the process, try it out. > >=20 > > If I understand correctly, the motivation for moving the spec > > somewhere else is to replace the email patch review process with a git > > forge review process? >=20 > wait who said that? I thought that's what the issue ultimately comes down to but it's clear now that's not it. Stefan --Gas364zqSwtfrver Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEhpWov9P5fNqsNXdanKSrs4Grc8gFAmodujAACgkQnKSrs4Gr c8iMnAf9FhEItYatirGCRYlUNMtMnIJh1WEgBLyVx4ky+bk7z8ymjwkelgdzS3al kjlqNgY8W0r8acJQfpLCFWC8Sn7gpDvlVV8761wskleBkCUk19DM5HHYpG/8e7bZ bggBp9QsfuumCelE5rx4ePa8ria9EmxChbMyQ1fy1318FK8tI8omZddUvX9RrvQg tkYu9svT9hGeul5H2KlhvpS2HHdbCs6CvpSckp04/gP+dDvCdOr+Qwn8FKGOkNMx gz8GHZMlKuBuFj/di3CFc1yaXposopIjNl0bDZ4p7/o8vT3/7D+rgiY+EyEku5ox oVW1egvEDYlKV3JLDUN+M9GkYyhqpQ== =y53Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Gas364zqSwtfrver--