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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Manos Pitsidianakis <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org>,
	Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>,
	Peter Hilber <peter.hilber@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev" <virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Trilok Soni <trilok.soni@oss.qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] content: Reserve ID 52 for QPSFI device
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2026 11:41:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261022114028-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR12MB6806C8FCEDA2E3D40CA82EB6DC652@SJ0PR12MB6806.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Oct 22, 2026 at 03:35:51PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> 
> > From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
> > Sent: 22 October 2026 08:35 PM
> > 
> > On Thu, Oct 22 2026, Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Let's define some standard way for the vendors to declare that this
> > > device is "Qualcomm", "NXP" or "hobbyist which doesn't own PCI or USB id
> > > block".
> > 
> > Are we able to use the first <n> bytes of config space for that? I guess
> > that is the only way that can possibly work for any transport.
> > 
> > Then, maybe something like one or two bytes for a vendor id (including
> > one for "testing purposes" or so), and the rest to be used in a
> > vendor-specific way.
> > 
> device ids are independent of the transport.
> 
> but Peter already announced that:
> " Reserve a device ID for QPSFI devices (Qualcomm Platform Subsystem
> Firmware Interface). QPSFI devices expose functionality across SoC
> subsystems through a common Virtio-based protocol. There are no plans to
> standardize the devices."
> 
> So, I am unable to understand why should it be part of vendor agnostic virtio spec?
> Why a vendor specific implementation of device and driver is not sufficient?

I don't really think we should vendors burn up device IDs every
times they want something non standard. Reserving ID 52 as
"vendor specific" so vendors can go wild sounds good,
but a bit more needs to be done than just reserving:
document what is expected, e.g. no auto load based on ID
alone.


-- 
MST


  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-22 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-21 18:00 [PATCH v2] content: Reserve ID 52 for QPSFI device Peter Hilber
2026-10-21 19:25 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-10-21 19:50   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-22  4:35     ` Cornelia Huck
2026-10-22  7:07       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-10-22  7:24         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-22  8:41           ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2026-10-22 13:19             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-22 14:07               ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-10-22 15:05                 ` Cornelia Huck
2026-10-22 15:35                   ` Parav Pandit
2026-10-22 15:41                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2026-10-22 15:49                       ` Parav Pandit
2026-10-22 16:02                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-22 16:20                           ` Parav Pandit
2026-10-22 16:29                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-22 22:39                               ` Peter Hilber
2026-10-22 23:28                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-23  3:32                                 ` Parav Pandit
2026-10-23  5:37                                 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2026-10-23  5:40                                   ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-10-23 20:56                                     ` Peter Hilber
2026-10-23 23:47                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-26 14:31                                       ` Cornelia Huck
2026-10-28 14:22                                         ` Peter Hilber
2026-10-22 15:44                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-22 14:50               ` Zelong Ren
2026-10-21 19:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-10-22 13:56 ` Dmitry Baryshkov

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