From: Zhu Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@amd.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "cohuck@redhat.com" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
"jasowang@redhat.com" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
"virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev" <virtio-comment@lists.linux.dev>,
"Eugenio Pérez" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
"David Stevens" <stevensd@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V7 v7] virtio: introduce SUSPEND bit in device status
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2024 16:51:18 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3bbab011-d4b6-463a-a092-cc3d4535cdc8@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <IA0PR12MB8713FA354FBC958CAA85BD80DC972@IA0PR12MB8713.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
On 8/30/2024 11:10 AM, Parav Pandit wrote:
>
>> From: Zhu Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@amd.com>
>> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2024 8:07 AM
>>
>>
>> On 8/15/2024 11:07 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 10:59:45AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
>>>>> From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2024 4:23 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2024 at 06:55:04AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
>>>>>> That means, PCI HW needs to return suspend=0, until the device is
>>>>>> not
>>>>> suspended.
>>>>>> In this example, the device cannot build special circuitry to
>>>>>> answer
>>>>> suspend=true within 50nsec, or in other words building special
>>>>> circuitry to return suspend=false is too complex for the slow operation.
>>>>>> If this understanding of burden is clear,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The proposal is, can you please extend the interface such that,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. driver writes suspend command.
>>>>>> 2. driver reads suspend_status, and receives not_completed=(false).
>>>>>> This is
>>>>> the default value.
>>>>>> 3. When the device completes suspend, it changes the polarity of
>>>>> suspend_status=true.
>>>>>> This has two main benefits:
>>>>>> [A] This will enable software-based devices to write data to slow
>>>>>> files and
>>>>> does not have to force VM_EXITs.
>>>>>> [B] It also enables hw based devices to not build special circuitry
>>>>>> to answer
>>>>> within 50nsec, which can get very complicated for tens or hundreds
>>>>> of PCI PFs.
>>>>>
>>>>> I read this several times, and I don't understand what is proposed.
>>>>> A special register for suspend/resume? Is this the difference?
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, a command register for suspend/resume operation.
>>>> And device_status new bit that Lingshan defined returns the status of this
>> operation.
>>>
>>> Ugh, it's all quite messy IMHO.
>>> We have 4 states:
>>> - operational (resumed)
>>> - suspend in progress
>>> - suspended
>>> - resume in progress
>>>
>>> What I'd do then is a two bit register.
>>> To suspend:
>>> - write suspend in progress
>>> - re-read, waiting until suspended
>>> To resume
>>> - write resume in progress
>>> - re-read, waiting until operational (resumed)
>>>
>>> How does this sound?
>> This can work for sure. but is it a must?
>> I mean, the driver has its own knowledge of how it operate the device.
>> When device presents SUSPEND == 0, It know whether the device is in
>> normal operational state or in the progress of SUSPENDING.
>>
>> But if you think we should add a new register which applying for all
>> device_status transitions, NOT only for SUSPEND. we can surely do that.
>>
>> Thanks
> New register beyond suspend+resume can be useful too.
> For sure it will simplify the suspend + resume flow.
There should be no difference in how the driver handles SUSPEND
and other device status like RESET.
If we want to add a new register, then it is not only for SUSPEND,
but for all status transitions.
We need Michael to confirm we should implement this new register
that apply to all device_status transitions for common interests.
Thanks
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-03 8:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-01 11:35 [PATCH V7 v7] virtio: introduce SUSPEND bit in device status Zhu Lingshan
2024-08-13 4:42 ` Parav Pandit
2024-08-13 5:44 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-08-13 5:50 ` Parav Pandit
2024-08-13 6:14 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-08-13 6:55 ` Parav Pandit
2024-08-15 8:23 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-08-15 9:34 ` Parav Pandit
2024-08-30 2:31 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-08-30 3:02 ` Parav Pandit
2024-09-03 9:05 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-09-03 9:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-09-03 10:09 ` Parav Pandit
2024-09-03 10:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-09-03 10:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-09-04 3:07 ` Jason Wang
2024-09-04 4:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-09-04 6:31 ` Jason Wang
2024-09-04 6:38 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-09-04 6:46 ` Parav Pandit
2024-09-05 7:14 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-09-05 7:16 ` Parav Pandit
2024-09-05 7:29 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-09-05 7:35 ` Parav Pandit
2024-09-05 8:30 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-09-05 8:41 ` David Stevens
2024-09-06 1:53 ` Parav Pandit
2024-09-05 7:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-09-05 7:31 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-09-05 7:34 ` Parav Pandit
2024-09-05 6:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-09-05 7:12 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-09-05 8:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-09-05 9:09 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-09-06 1:54 ` Parav Pandit
2024-09-05 23:51 ` Jason Wang
2024-09-11 3:52 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-09-11 10:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-09-12 2:05 ` Jason Wang
2024-09-12 5:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-09-24 7:35 ` Jason Wang
2024-09-24 23:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-09-25 3:47 ` Jason Wang
2024-09-25 11:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-09-27 4:08 ` Jason Wang
2024-09-29 17:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-10-17 6:56 ` Jason Wang
2024-09-03 10:28 ` Parav Pandit
2024-09-05 7:20 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-08-15 10:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-08-30 2:32 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-08-15 10:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-08-15 10:59 ` Parav Pandit
2024-08-15 15:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-08-17 5:19 ` Parav Pandit
2024-08-30 2:37 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-08-30 3:10 ` Parav Pandit
2024-09-03 8:51 ` Zhu Lingshan [this message]
2024-09-03 8:55 ` Parav Pandit
2024-09-03 9:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-09-05 7:27 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-09-24 23:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-08-13 7:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-08-13 7:58 ` Parav Pandit
2024-08-13 8:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-08-13 8:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-08-15 9:12 ` Zhu Lingshan
2024-08-15 10:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-08-30 2:20 ` Zhu Lingshan
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