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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 1/2] virtio-mem: introduce VIRTIO_MEM_F_UNPLUGGED_INACCESSIBLE
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 11:33:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eeastnzg.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2044101d-2b2e-0fbf-68a7-2c4398084a40@redhat.com>

On Tue, Aug 17 2021, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 17.08.21 11:23, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 17 2021, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 17.08.21 10:50, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Aug 12 2021, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>> +With VIRTIO_MEM_F_UNPLUGGED_INACCESSIBLE, the device MAY allow the CPU to
>>>>
>>>> "If VIRTIO_MEM_F_UNPLUGGED_INACCESSIBLE has been negotiated, ..."
>>>>
>>>
>>> ack
>>>
>>>>> +read memory of unplugged memory blocks inside \field{usable_region_size}.
>>>>
>>>> A compliant driver would not read that memory, would it?
>>>
>>> Indeed. The device could decide to allow for reading, but it's pretty
>>> much undefined behavior.
>> 
>> Maybe make it "SHOULD NOT"? Less strong than "MUST NOT", but still makes
>> clear that a driver reading it is pretty much doing the wrong thing.
>> 
>
> I was also wondering to just drop it completely, because it's actually 
> undefined behavior. What do you think?

Right, I'm not sure we need to specify this at all. Do others have an
opinion? The one thing it does is adding a nicely symmetrical statement.


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  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-17  9:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-12 13:31 [PATCH v1 0/2] virtio-mem: VIRTIO_MEM_F_UNPLUGGED_INACCESSIBLE and interaction with memory properties David Hildenbrand
2021-08-12 13:31 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 1/2] virtio-mem: introduce VIRTIO_MEM_F_UNPLUGGED_INACCESSIBLE David Hildenbrand
2021-08-17  8:50   ` Cornelia Huck
2021-08-17  9:08     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-17  9:23       ` Cornelia Huck
2021-08-17  9:27         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-17  9:33           ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2021-08-12 13:31 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v1 2/2] virtio-mem: describe interaction with memory properties David Hildenbrand
2021-08-17  9:01   ` Cornelia Huck
2021-08-17  9:58     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-17 10:24       ` Cornelia Huck
2021-08-17 12:20         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-08-17 13:25           ` Cornelia Huck
2021-08-17 13:27             ` David Hildenbrand

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