From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: 侯英乐 <houyingle@sudoinfotech.com>,
"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
virtio-comment <virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
"Keith Busch" <kbusch@kernel.org>,
"Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
"Klaus Jensen" <k.jensen@samsung.com>,
sgarzare <sgarzare@redhat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] About adding a new device type virtio-nvme
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:59:51 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y8l3B61V1nGOYA+u@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c85a2341-2402-cc2c-9c8e-2d2dc1cb6876@redhat.com>
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On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 11:40:02AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>
> 在 2023/1/18 22:14, Stefan Hajnoczi 写道:
> > On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 10:15:12AM +0800, 侯英乐 wrote:
> > > On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 10:34:09 -0500, Stefan wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 05:41:57PM +0800, 侯英乐 wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 09:32:05 +0100,David wrote:
> > > > > > On 17.01.23 03:04, 侯英乐 wrote:
> > > > The two diagrams are quite similar. Did you want to highlight a
> > > > difference between the two approaches in the diagram?
> > > The biggest difference is the VFIO and vDPA frameworks. The vDPA (virtio data path acceleration) kernel framework
> > > is a pillar in productizing the end-to-end vDPA solution and it enables NIC vendors to integrate their vDPA NIC kernel
> > > drivers into the framework as part of their productization efforts.
> > > Detailed information reference:https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/introduction-vdpa-kernel-framework
> > For the sake of the argument, let's assume VFIO can't be used in your
> > situation so vDPA is required. The part I don't understand is which
> > specific NVMe features you need that virtio-blk lacks?
>
>
> I can think one:
>
> Avoid guest application migration from NVMe to virtio-blk?
To get the best fidelity in that situation NVMe PCI would be the natural
choice. For example, if the application is SPDK then it won't just work
with virtio-nvme because it has a userspace NVMe PCI driver.
There might be applications that break when moving from NVMe to
virtio-blk but don't depend on NVMe PCI, but it seems like a very niche
case.
Most applications don't use NVMe directly or if they do, then they speak
NVMe PCI or NVME over TCP directly, so they won't work with virtio-nvme.
Stefan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-19 16:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-11 3:21 [virtio-comment] About adding a new device type virtio-nvme 侯英乐
2023-01-11 15:16 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-01-17 2:04 ` 侯英乐
2023-01-17 8:32 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-17 9:30 ` 侯英乐
[not found] ` <202301171730174296359@sudoinfotech.com>
2023-01-17 9:41 ` 侯英乐
2023-01-17 15:34 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-01-17 15:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-01-18 2:38 ` 侯英乐
2023-01-18 2:15 ` 侯英乐
2023-01-18 14:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-01-19 8:31 ` 侯英乐
2023-01-18 14:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-01-19 3:40 ` Jason Wang
2023-01-19 16:59 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2023-01-19 9:03 ` 侯英乐
2023-01-19 17:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-01-19 3:38 ` Jason Wang
2023-01-19 7:22 ` 侯英乐
2023-01-17 16:01 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
[not found] ` <20230117162114.GA24976@lst.de>
2023-01-17 16:53 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-01-18 11:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-18 2:49 ` 侯英乐
2023-02-05 12:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-09 3:28 ` 侯英乐
2023-02-17 3:01 ` Parav Pandit
2023-01-19 11:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-29 3:32 ` 侯英乐
2023-01-30 20:30 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-01-17 17:19 ` Max Gurtovoy
2023-01-18 3:23 ` 侯英乐
2023-01-18 10:09 ` Max Gurtovoy
2023-01-18 11:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-18 11:27 ` Max Gurtovoy
2023-01-18 13:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-01-19 10:19 ` 侯英乐
2023-01-19 10:33 ` Max Gurtovoy
2023-01-19 11:02 ` 侯英乐
2023-01-19 17:15 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-01-18 10:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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