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From: "Zhu, Lingshan" <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>, Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"cohuck@redhat.com" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"sburla@marvell.com" <sburla@marvell.com>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>,
	Maor Gottlieb <maorg@nvidia.com>,
	Yishai Hadas <yishaih@nvidia.com>
Subject: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH v3 6/8] admin: Add theory of operation for write recording commands
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 12:05:59 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b9b8a564-b2eb-4c1c-9ada-975f3833e282@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231114032553-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>



On 11/14/2023 4:27 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 03:34:32PM +0800, Zhu, Lingshan wrote:
>>>> So I can't
>>>> believe it has good performance overall. Logging via IOMMU or using
>>>> shadow virtqueue doesn't need any extra PCI transactions at least.
>>> On the other hand they have an extra CPU cost.  Personally if this is
>>> coming from a hardware vendor, I am inclined to trust them wrt PCI
>>> transactions.  But anyway, discussing this at a high level theoretically
>>> is pointless - whoever bothers with actual prototyping for performance
>>> testing wins, if no one does I'd expect a back of a napkin estimate
>>> to be included.
>> if so, Intel has released productions implementing these interfaces years
>> ago,
>> see live migration in 4.1. IFCVF vDPA Implementation,
>> https://doc.dpdk.org/guides-21.11/vdpadevs/ifc.html
>> and
> That one is based on shadow queue, right? Which I think this shows
> is worth supporting.
Yes, it is shadow virtqueue, I assume this is already mostly done,
do you see any gaps we need to address in our series that we should work on?

Thanks
>
>> But I still believe we are here try our best to work out an industrial spec
>> with better quality, to serve broad interest. This is not competition
>> between companies,
>> and the spec is not a FIFO, not like a early bird can catch all the worm.


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-15  4:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 157+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-30 13:19 [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 0/8] Introduce device migration support commands Parav Pandit
2023-10-30 13:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 1/8] admin: Add theory of operation for device migration Parav Pandit
2023-10-30 13:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 2/8] admin: Redefine reserved2 as command specific output Parav Pandit
2023-10-30 13:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 3/8] device-context: Define the device context fields for device migration Parav Pandit
2023-10-30 13:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 4/8] admin: Add device migration admin commands Parav Pandit
2023-10-30 13:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 5/8] admin: Add requirements of device migration commands Parav Pandit
2023-10-30 13:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 6/8] admin: Add theory of operation for write recording commands Parav Pandit
2023-10-31  1:43   ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-10-31  3:27     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-10-31  7:45       ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-31  9:32         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-31  9:41           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-31  9:47             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-01  0:29       ` Jason Wang
2023-11-01  3:02         ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-02  4:24           ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-02  6:10             ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-06  6:34               ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-06  6:53                 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-07  4:04                   ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-07  7:05                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08  4:28                       ` Jason Wang
2023-11-08  8:17                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-08  9:00                           ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-08 17:16                             ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09  6:27                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-09  3:31                           ` Jason Wang
2023-11-09  7:59                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-10  6:46                               ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-13  3:41                                 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-13 14:30                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-14  2:03                                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-14  7:52                                       ` Jason Wang
2023-11-15 17:37                                   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-16  4:24                                     ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-16  6:49                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-21  4:21                                         ` Jason Wang
2023-11-21 16:24                                           ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-22  4:11                                             ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-16  6:50                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-13  3:31                               ` Jason Wang
2023-11-13  6:57                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-14  7:34                                   ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-14  7:59                                     ` Jason Wang
2023-11-14  8:27                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-15  4:05                                       ` Zhu, Lingshan [this message]
2023-11-15  7:51                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-15  7:59                                           ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-15  8:05                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-15  8:42                                               ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-15 11:52                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-16  9:38                                                   ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-16 12:18                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17  9:50                                                       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-17  9:55                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-14  7:57                                   ` Jason Wang
2023-11-14  9:16                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-15 17:42                                 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-16  4:18                                   ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-16  5:27                                     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 10:15                                   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 10:48                                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 11:19                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 11:32                                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 11:49                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 12:15                                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 12:37                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 12:49                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 13:58                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 14:49                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 15:00                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-09  6:26                         ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-15  7:59                           ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-15 17:42                             ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-09  6:24                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-13  3:37                       ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-15 17:38                         ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-16  4:23                           ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-16  5:29                             ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-16  5:51                               ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-16  7:35                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-16  7:40                                   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-16 11:48                                     ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-16 16:26                                       ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-16 17:25                                         ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-16 17:29                                           ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-16 18:20                                             ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17  3:02                                               ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-17  8:46                                                 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17  9:14                                                   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-17  9:37                                                     ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17  9:41                                                       ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-17  9:44                                                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17  9:51                                                         ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17  9:54                                                           ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-17 10:02                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 10:10                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17  9:57                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 10:37                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 10:52                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 11:32                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 12:22                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 12:40                                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 12:51                                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-21  5:16                                                                         ` Jason Wang
2023-11-21 16:29                                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-21 21:00                                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22  3:46                                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22  7:44                                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-22  4:17                                                                             ` Jason Wang
2023-11-22  4:34                                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-24  3:15                                                                                 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-17  9:52                                                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-17  9:59                                                           ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 10:00                                                             ` [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-21  4:24                                                 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-21 16:26                                                   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-22  4:14                                                     ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-22  4:19                                                       ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-24  3:09                                                         ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-16 10:28                                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-16 11:59                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17  9:59                                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-11-17 10:03                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 11:00                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 11:05                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 11:33                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 11:45                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 12:04                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 12:11                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 12:32                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 13:03                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 14:00                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-17 14:48                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-17 14:59                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-21  6:55                                                             ` Jason Wang
2023-11-21 16:30                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-22  4:19                                                                 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-22  4:28                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-11-24  3:08                                                                     ` Jason Wang
2023-11-22  2:31                                                               ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-11-22  5:31                                                                 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-23 13:19                                                                   ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-11-23 14:39                                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24  2:29                                                                     ` Jason Wang
2023-11-28  3:00                                                                       ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-11-29  5:12                                                                         ` Jason Wang
2023-11-17 10:40                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-21  4:23                                 ` Jason Wang
2023-11-21  7:14                               ` Jason Wang
2023-11-21 16:31                                 ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-22  4:28                                   ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-22  6:41                                     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-11-24  3:06                                       ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-11-15  7:58                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-30 13:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 7/8] admin: Add " Parav Pandit
2023-10-30 13:19 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 8/8] admin: Add requirements of write reporting commands Parav Pandit

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