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From: Heng Qi <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH v2] virtio-net: support setting coalescing params for multiple vqs
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2024 10:33:37 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c0846987-4aa6-4918-a9d7-e568fa62d2b3@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240124055209-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>



在 2024/1/24 下午6:52, Michael S. Tsirkin 写道:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 05:50:28AM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 09:06:02PM +0800, Heng Qi wrote:
>>> Currently, when each time the driver attempts to update the coalescing parameters
>>> for a vq, it needs to kick the device and wait for the ctrlq response to return.
>>> The following path is observed: 1. Driver kicks the device; 2. After the device
>>> receives the kick, CPU scheduling occurs and DMA multiple buffers multiple times;
>>> 3. The device completes processing and replies with a response.
>>>
>>> When large-queue devices issue multiple requests and kick the device frequently,
>>> this often interrupt the work of the device-side CPU. In addition, each vq request
>>> is processed separately, causing more delays for the CPU to wait for the DMA
>>> request to complete.
>>>
>>> These interruptions and overhead will strain the CPU responsible for controlling
>>> the path of the DPU, especially in multi-device and large-queue scenarios.
>>>
>>> To solve the above problems, we internally tried batch request, which merges
>>> requests from multiple queues and sends them at once. We conservatively tested
>>> 8 queue commands and sent them together. The DPU processing efficiency can be
>>> improved by 8 times, which greatly eases the DPU's support for multi-device
>>> and multi-queue DIM.
>>>
>>> Maintainers may be concerned about whether the batch command method can optimize
>>> the above problems: accumulate multiple request commands to kick the device once,
>>> and obtain the processing results of the corresponding commands asynchronously.
>>> The batch command method is used by us to optimize the CPU overhead of the DIM
>>> worker caused by the guest being busy waiting for the command response result.
>>> This is a different focus than batch request to solve the problem.
>>>
>>> Suggested-by: Xiaoming Zhao <zxm377917@alibaba-inc.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Heng Qi <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>
>>> ---
>>> v1->v2: Updated commit log. Due to sensitivity, sorry that can not give the
>>>      absolute value directly. @Michael
>>>
>>>   device-types/net/description.tex | 26 ++++++++++++++++++++------
>>>   1 file changed, 20 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/device-types/net/description.tex b/device-types/net/description.tex
>>> index aff5e08..b3766c4 100644
>>> --- a/device-types/net/description.tex
>>> +++ b/device-types/net/description.tex
>>> @@ -1667,8 +1667,8 @@ \subsubsection{Control Virtqueue}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Devi
>>>   for notification coalescing.
>>>   
>>>   If the VIRTIO_NET_F_VQ_NOTF_COAL feature is negotiated, the driver can
>>> -send commands VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_SET and VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_GET
>>> -for virtqueue notification coalescing.
>>> +send commands VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_SET, VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQS_SET and
>>> +VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_GET for virtqueue notification coalescing.
>>>   
>>>   \begin{lstlisting}
>>>   struct virtio_net_ctrl_coal {
>>> @@ -1682,11 +1682,17 @@ \subsubsection{Control Virtqueue}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Devi
>>>       struct virtio_net_ctrl_coal coal;
>>>   };
>>>   
>>> +struct virtio_net_ctrl_mrg_coal_vq {
>>> +        le16 num_entries; /* indicates number of valid entries */
>>> +        struct virtio_net_ctrl_coal_vq entries[];
>>> +};
>>> +
>>>   #define VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL 6
>>>    #define VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_TX_SET  0
>>>    #define VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_RX_SET 1
>>>    #define VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_SET 2
>>>    #define VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_GET 3
>>> + #define VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQS_SET 4
>>>   \end{lstlisting}
>>>   
>>>   Coalescing parameters:
>>> @@ -1706,6 +1712,7 @@ \subsubsection{Control Virtqueue}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Devi
>>>   \item For the command VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_SET, the structure virtio_net_ctrl_coal_vq is write-only for the driver.
>>>   \item For the command VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_GET, \field{vq_index} and \field{reserved} are write-only
>>>         for the driver, and the structure virtio_net_ctrl_coal is read-only for the driver.
>>> +\item For the command VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQS_SET, the structure virtio_net_ctrl_mrg_coal_vq is write-only for the driver.
>>>   \end{itemize}
>>>   
>>>   The class VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL has the following commands:
>>> @@ -1716,6 +1723,9 @@ \subsubsection{Control Virtqueue}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Devi
>>>                                           for an enabled transmit/receive virtqueue whose index is \field{vq_index}.
>>>   \item VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_GET: use the structure virtio_net_ctrl_coal_vq to get the \field{max_usecs} and \field{max_packets} parameters
>>>                                           for an enabled transmit/receive virtqueue whose index is \field{vq_index}.
>>> +\item VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQS_SET: use the structure virtio_net_ctrl_mrg_coal_vq to set the \field{max_usecs} and \field{max_packets} parameters
>>> +                                         for \field{num_entries} enabled transmit/receive virtqueues. The corresponding index value
>>> +                                         of each configured virtqueue is \field{vq_index}.
>>>   \end{enumerate}
>>>   
>>>   The device may generate notifications more or less frequently than specified by set commands of the VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL class.
>>> @@ -1782,9 +1792,13 @@ \subsubsection{Control Virtqueue}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Devi
>>>   
>>>   The driver MUST set \field{vq_index} to the virtqueue index of an enabled transmit or receive virtqueue.
>>>   
>>> +The driver MUST set \field{num_entries} to a non-zero value and MUST NOT set \field{num_entries} to
>>> +a value greater than the number of enabled transmit and receive virtqueues.
>>> +
>>>   The driver MUST have negotiated the VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTF_COAL feature when issuing commands VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_TX_SET and VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_RX_SET.
>>>   
>>> -The driver MUST have negotiated the VIRTIO_NET_F_VQ_NOTF_COAL feature when issuing commands VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_SET and VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_GET.
>>> +The driver MUST have negotiated the VIRTIO_NET_F_VQ_NOTF_COAL feature when issuing commands
>>> +VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_SET, VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQS_SET and VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_GET.
>>>   
>>>   The driver MUST ignore the values of coalescing parameters received from the VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_GET command if the device responds with VIRTIO_NET_ERR.
>>>   
>>> @@ -1794,10 +1808,10 @@ \subsubsection{Control Virtqueue}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Devi
>>>   
>>>   The device SHOULD respond to VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_TX_SET and VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_RX_SET commands with VIRTIO_NET_ERR if it was not able to change the parameters.
>>>   
>>> -The device MUST respond to the VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_SET command with VIRTIO_NET_ERR if it was not able to change the parameters.
>>> +The device MUST respond to VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_SET and VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQS_SET commands with VIRTIO_NET_ERR if it was not able to change the parameters.
>> This one however is vague.
>> In fact the addition of VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_SET made
>> VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_TX_SET and VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_RX_SET
>> also vague we just missed this.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, it is not clear whether if the device responds with VIRTIO_NET_ERR - it can change
>> parameters for some VQs but not others, or does it have to either
>> change parameters for all VQs or none at all.
>>
>> I think a better sematic is all or nothing.
>>
>> So I suggest combining this statement with one of
>> VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_TX_SET and VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_RX_SET,
>> and adding something like
>> "in this case, coalescing parameters MUST remain unchanged,
>> for all VQs".
>>
>> This bug bothers me. Maybe we should fix it before release?
>>
>> I also don't know why we repeat same text for VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_SET,
>> VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_TX_SET and VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_RX_SET.
> I figured it out, TX/RX are SHOULD.
> I will fix TX/RX and you can add the text to this one.

Sorry Michael, it seems I missed this email yesterday.

I will add this.

Thanks,
Heng

>
>
>>>   
>>> -The device MUST respond to VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_SET and VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_GET commands with
>>> -VIRTIO_NET_ERR if the designated virtqueue is not an enabled transmit or receive virtqueue.
>>> +The device MUST respond to VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_SET, VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQS_SET and VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_VQ_GET
>>> +commands with VIRTIO_NET_ERR if the designated virtqueue is not an enabled transmit or receive virtqueue.
>>>   
>>>   Upon disabling and re-enabling a transmit virtqueue, the device MUST set the coalescing parameters of the virtqueue
>>>   to those configured through the VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_NOTF_COAL_TX_SET command, or, if the driver did not set any TX coalescing parameters, to 0.
>>> -- 
>>> 1.8.3.1
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      reply	other threads:[~2024-01-25  2:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-15 13:06 [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2] virtio-net: support setting coalescing params for multiple vqs Heng Qi
2024-01-15 13:21 ` Parav Pandit
2024-01-17  4:52   ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2024-01-20  9:59     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2024-01-22  2:57       ` Heng Qi
2024-01-22  5:03         ` Parav Pandit
2024-01-22  7:36           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-01-23  5:55             ` Parav Pandit
2024-01-23  7:15               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-01-23  7:28                 ` Parav Pandit
2024-01-24  2:43                 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2024-01-24 13:01           ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2024-01-24 13:18             ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2024-01-25  3:05               ` Heng Qi
2024-01-25  3:51                 ` Jason Wang
2024-01-15 22:58 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-01-17  8:53   ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2024-01-24 10:50 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-01-24 10:52   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-01-25  2:33     ` Heng Qi [this message]

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