public inbox for virtio-dev@lists.linux.dev
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"cohuck@redhat.com" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"david.edmondson@oracle.com" <david.edmondson@oracle.com>,
	"sburla@marvell.com" <sburla@marvell.com>,
	Yishai Hadas <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
	Maor Gottlieb <maorg@nvidia.com>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] transport-pci: Introduce legacy registers access using AQ
Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 15:30:47 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0f75a142-71e9-676a-11ae-a54e6dbb472d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB54812F2EFEC7B6A235953A82DC749@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>


在 2023/5/11 21:02, Parav Pandit 写道:
>
>> From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2023 8:55 AM
>>> 1) device features
>>> 2) driver features
>>> 3) queue address
>>> 4) queue size
>>> 5) queue select
>>> 6) queue notify
>>> 7) device status
>>> 8) ISR status
>>> 9) config msix
>>> 10) queue msix
>>> 11) device configuration space
>>>
> #9 may not even go to the group owner device.


It the config_msix_vector register so I don't understand why it can't 
work but can work with your proposal.


> What do we gain from bisecting it?


1) No need to deal with the offset in the hardware

2) transport independent

3) avoid duplication with the (legacy support of) transport virtqueue


> Every new additional needs involvement of the hypervisor as Michael noted below on "effort" point.


I'm not sure I get your point.

If additional effort is not wanted, we need a full PCI over adminq, 
that's what I suggested, then we don't need any extension for any new 
features probably.

If we choose to invent dedicated adminq commands:

For legacy, we don't need any new additional effort since the above 11 
maps to the legacy virtio-pci facilities.

For modern, if the feature is something related to the transport, we 
need new transport interface for sure.


>
> The register offset and read/write is far simpler interface for hypervisor.


If this is true, why not go full PCI over adminq? Hypervisor in this 
case even don't need to deal with config space.


>
> Not to do cross register access is what we need to define in the spec for 1.x or future things.


You can't assume the hypervisor behaviors, so the device or at least the 
spec should be ready for that.

Thanks


>
>>> It focuses on the facilities instead of transport specific details
>>> like registers (we don't even need legacy registers in this case), I
>>> gives more deterministic behavior so we don't need to care about the
>>> cross registers read/write.
>> This needs thought, it is definitely more work.  Effort that could be maybe spent
>> on new features.  What is the motivation here? supporting legacy mmio guests?


---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: virtio-dev-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org
For additional commands, e-mail: virtio-dev-help@lists.oasis-open.org


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-15  7:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-06  0:01 [virtio-dev] [PATCH v2 0/2] transport-pci: Introduce legacy registers access using AQ Parav Pandit
2023-05-06  0:01 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v2 1/2] transport-pci: Introduce legacy registers access commands Parav Pandit
2023-05-17  5:44   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-17 19:32     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-18 19:42       ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-18 20:51         ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-19  1:54         ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-19  2:04           ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-19  6:06         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-19 16:37           ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-21  9:16             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-21 13:21               ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-21 14:33                 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-21 14:44                   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-22 20:07                     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-22 21:05                       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-22 21:34                         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-23 17:13                           ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-23 18:48                             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-23 22:22                               ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-24  1:17                                 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-24 10:07                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-24 19:18                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-24 20:12                                     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-24 21:02                                       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-22 21:42                         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-22  0:54                   ` Jason Wang
2023-05-22  2:46                     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-22 19:35                     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-06  0:01 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v2 2/2] transport-pci: Add legacy register access conformance section Parav Pandit
2023-05-06  2:31 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] transport-pci: Introduce legacy registers access using AQ Jason Wang
2023-05-07 13:44   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-08  2:23     ` Jason Wang
2023-05-08 17:07       ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-09  3:44         ` Jason Wang
2023-05-09  3:56           ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-10  3:51             ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-10  4:22               ` Jason Wang
2023-05-10 16:07                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-11  7:20                   ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-11 11:35                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15  5:08                       ` Jason Wang
2023-05-15 15:25                     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-10 16:04               ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11  7:17                 ` Jason Wang
2023-05-11 14:31                   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15  5:12                     ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-05-15 15:26                       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-10  6:04       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-10  7:01         ` Jason Wang
2023-05-10  7:43           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-10 16:13             ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-11  7:04             ` Jason Wang
2023-05-11 12:54               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-11 13:02                 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15  7:30                   ` Jason Wang [this message]
2023-05-15 10:08                     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15 14:30                       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-23 18:16                         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-23 21:32                           ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-24  5:56                             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-24 18:57                               ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-24 19:58                                 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-24 20:01                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-24 20:15                                     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15 15:59                     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16  6:21                       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16 19:11                         ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 20:58                           ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16 21:19                             ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 21:23                               ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16 21:30                                 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15  7:13                 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-11 13:15               ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11 13:45                 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-12 14:03                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-16  3:54                 ` Jason Wang
2023-05-16 19:35                   ` [virtio-dev] RE: [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 21:11                     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16 21:49                       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 21:56                         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-10 16:11         ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-10 16:16           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-10 17:33             ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-10 21:08               ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-10 21:33                 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-10 21:48                   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11  7:06                 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-11 13:04                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15  5:19                     ` Jason Wang
2023-05-15 15:31                       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11 13:28                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-11 13:38                     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-11 16:00                       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-11 20:47                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-11 20:58                         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-11 21:03                           ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 16:55                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-15  7:10                     ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-15 15:49                       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 17:44                         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15 17:51                           ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 17:56                             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15 18:00                               ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 18:01                                 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15 18:05                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16  3:37                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-16  3:43                                     ` Jason Wang
2023-05-16  5:38                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16  3:28                         ` Jason Wang
2023-05-16  3:45                           ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16  4:08                             ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-05-16 19:29                               ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 21:09                                 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16 21:41                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 21:54                                     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16  4:18                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-07  9:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-08 16:54   ` Parav Pandit
2023-05-15 20:29     ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-15 20:56       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16  4:32         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-16 18:45           ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-05-16 20:42             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-23  6:38 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-23 17:28   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=0f75a142-71e9-676a-11ae-a54e6dbb472d@redhat.com \
    --to=jasowang@redhat.com \
    --cc=cohuck@redhat.com \
    --cc=david.edmondson@oracle.com \
    --cc=maorg@nvidia.com \
    --cc=mst@redhat.com \
    --cc=parav@nvidia.com \
    --cc=sburla@marvell.com \
    --cc=shahafs@nvidia.com \
    --cc=virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org \
    --cc=virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org \
    --cc=yishaih@nvidia.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox