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From: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
To: "Zhu, Lingshan" <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
Cc: virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, mst@redhat.com,
	parav@nvidia.com, virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] [RFC PATCH] admin-queue: bind the group member to the device
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:08:29 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1687763309.2985258-1-xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ddd572b-a1d0-74eb-1e31-abb6dafdef3d@intel.com>

On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 14:43:17 +0800, "Zhu, Lingshan" <lingshan.zhu@intel.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 6/26/2023 2:22 PM, Xuan Zhuo wrote:
> > The VFs of the SR-IOV are created by the user inside the guest OS, so the virtio
> > devices don't know about these VFs. Because each VF may be assigned a different role
> > by the user, the virtio device can not choose one VF to bind random.
> > So only the user knows how to bind the virtio devices to the VFs.
> > On the other hand, generally the virtio devices are not created by the user
> > inside the guest OS. This requires some management platform to participate.
> >
> > So the usage of this command:
> > 1. The user purchases a virtio network card on the management platform,
> >     and sets the ip, queue number, etc. The user obtains the identity of
> >     the network card.
> > 2. The user creates a VF with echo 8 > sriov_numvfs
> > 3. The user binds the net crad to a VF with identity through the command
> >     of the patch
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
> > ---
> >   admin.tex | 41 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> >   1 file changed, 40 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/admin.tex b/admin.tex
> > index 2efd4d7..64d0667 100644
> > --- a/admin.tex
> > +++ b/admin.tex
> > @@ -115,7 +115,8 @@ \subsection{Group administration commands}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virti
> >   \hline \hline
> >   0x0000 & VIRTIO_ADMIN_CMD_LIST_QUERY & Provides to driver list of commands supported for this group type    \\
> >   0x0001 & VIRTIO_ADMIN_CMD_LIST_USE & Provides to device list of commands used for this group type \\
> > -0x0002 - 0x7FFF & - & Commands using \field{struct virtio_admin_cmd}    \\
> > +0x0002 & VIRTIO_ADMIN_CMD_BIND_DEVICE & Bind the device to one group member \\
> > +0x0003 - 0x7FFF & - & Commands using \field{struct virtio_admin_cmd}    \\
> >   \hline
> >   0x8000 - 0xFFFF & - & Reserved for future commands (possibly using a different structure)    \\
> >   \hline
> > @@ -429,6 +430,44 @@ \subsection{Group administration commands}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virti
> >   \field{VF Enable} refer to registers within the SR-IOV Extended
> >   Capability as specified by \hyperref[intro:PCIe]{[PCIe]}.
> >
> > +\subsubsection{Bind the device for member}
> > +
> > +The VFs of the SR-IOV are created by the user inside the guest OS, so the virtio
> If the VFs are create in a guest OS, I assume that means the user has
> passthrough-ed the
> PF to the guest. For nested, I am not sure whether this is a security
> issue(affects host pci).


No care about the passthrough, we always created VFs by the PF.

I should not say "inside the guest OS". I just want to say that the VF is create
by the user in the OS. The devices does not know about it.


> > +devices don't know about these VFs. Because each VF may be assigned a different role
> > +by the user, the virtio device can not choose one VF to bind random.
> I failed to understand this, once a VF is created, it has a personality,
> e.g.,
> create a virtio-net VF from a virtio-net PF, and PF knows that.
>
> I am not familiar with the background, What do you mean by virtio device
> choose
> one VF to bind?


On the cloud, the nic is created by the management platform, the
user can not create a new nic inside the OS.

So after echo sriov_numvfs, the user just got some VFs,
there is not backend virtio-net devices.

Thanks.


> > +So only the user knows how to bind the virtio devices to the VFs.
> > +On the other hand, generally the virtio devices are not created by the user
> > +inside the guest OS. This requires some management platform to participate.
> > +
> > +So we introduce a new admin queue command to bind the VFs and the virtio
> > +devices.
> Sorry, failed to process this. Maybe an orchestration sw layer can help?
> Provision a device on demands and assign it to a guest?
>
> Thanks
> > +
> > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > +struct virtio_admin_cmd_bind {
> > +    u64 identity;
> > +};
> > +\end{lstlisting}
> > +
> > +The user got the \field{identity} from the management platform, that is not
> > +included by this spec.
> > +
> > +\drivernormative{\paragraph}{Group administration commands}{Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Device groups / Group administration commands / Bind the device for member}
> > +
> > +VIRTIO_ADMIN_CMD_BIND_DEVICE requires that the \field{group_member_id} MUST be set.
> > +
> > +The \field{identity} is passed by the user. It is the identity of the virtio
> > +device.
> > +
> > +\devicenormative{\paragraph}{Group administration commands}{Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Device groups / Group administration commands / Bind the device for member}
> > +
> > +Every device MUST have one unique \field{identity} in the host.
> > +
> > +If the PF device can not find the device by the \field{identity},
> > +the \field{status} MUST be set to VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_EINVAL.
> > +
> > +If the device is found by the \field{identity}, the device MUST work as the
> > +device of this group member specified by the \field{group_member_id}.
> > +
> >   \section{Administration Virtqueues}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Administration Virtqueues}
> >
> >   An administration virtqueue of an owner device is used to submit
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-26  7:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-26  6:22 [virtio-dev] [RFC PATCH] admin-queue: bind the group member to the device Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-26  6:43 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-06-26  7:08   ` Xuan Zhuo [this message]
2023-06-26  7:57     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-06-26  8:09       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-26  8:59         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-06-26  9:16           ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-26  9:32             ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-26  9:56             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-06-26 10:50               ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-26 12:19                 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-26 12:32                   ` [virtio-dev] " Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-26 13:01                     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-26 12:35                   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-26 12:39                     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-26 22:46                     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-27  2:57                 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-06-27  8:14                   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-27  9:04                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-06-26  9:32 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-26  9:35   ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-27  8:08 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-06-27  8:16   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-27  8:23 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-27  9:00   ` Jason Wang
2023-06-27 10:50     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-28  2:49       ` Jason Wang
2023-06-28  6:06         ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-28 15:55           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-29  3:29             ` Jason Wang
2023-06-27 15:03   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-27 16:02   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-28  2:21     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-28 15:06       ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-28 15:41       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-03  3:21         ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-07-03  7:42           ` Jason Wang
2023-07-03 20:03           ` Parav Pandit

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