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From: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: "jasowang@redhat.com" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	David Edmondson <david.edmondson@oracle.com>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	Heng Qi <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: RE: [virtio-dev] RE: RE: RE: RE: [PATCH v16] virtio-net: support device stats
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 10:55:49 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1693882549.2640717-1-xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB54813CB40389462B1667184ADCE9A@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 12:21:48 +0000, Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > From: Heng Qi <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>
> > Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 4:41 PM
> >
> > 在 2023/9/4 下午6:26, Parav Pandit 写道:
> > >> From: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
> > >> Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 2:23 PM
> > >
> > >>> "The device MUST NOT pass received packets that exceed mtu (plus low
> > >>> level ethernet header length) size with gso_type NONE or ECN after
> > >> VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU has been successfully negotiated."
> > >>
> > >> NO.
> > >>
> > >> If the mtu is 1500, we can pass 64k packets to the driver with
> > >> gso_type (not NONE).
> > > Any supporting citation to spec for above comment?
> >
> > I think it can be referred here:
> > "The converse features are also available: a driver can save the virtual device
> > some work by negotiating these features. Note: For example, a network packet
> > transported between two guests on the same system might not need
> > checksumming at all, nor segmentation, if both guests are amenable."
> >
> Sure, it can avoid segmentation, but not at the cost of skipping mtu check.
> For example, sender sends skb with gso with each segment of 9K, and receiver has mtu of 1500, same skb without segmentation is not good.
> Because gso_size should be same as 1500 to match the mtu.

First, for me, I think the size of the each buffer specified by the desc is
irrelated to the gso_size.

And the receiver can set the gso_size to match the MTU.

So the sender can send a gso packet with any segments, any gso_size.
For the receiver, it receives a big packet, it copys to the driver with multple
buffers, and sets the right gso_size.

Is that right?

Thanks.


> One can say with violation of line " The device MUST NOT pass received packets..." things still work fine because guest is amenable. :)
>
> So counter looks ok to me when VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is not negotiated or when mtu matches.
>
> > >
> > > Each packet must be 1500 for the mtu normative above.
> > > gso_size to <= mtu (ingoring the hdr math for simplicity for now).
> > > whole GSO completion can be for 64K to be reported in used_elem.len.
> > >
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-09-05  3:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-30  5:52 [virtio-dev] [PATCH v16] virtio-net: support device stats Xuan Zhuo
2023-09-01 13:58 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-09-01 14:45   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-04  7:46     ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Xuan Zhuo
2023-09-04  7:33   ` [virtio-dev] Re: " Xuan Zhuo
2023-09-04  8:00     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-09-04  8:02       ` [virtio-dev] " Xuan Zhuo
2023-09-04  8:08         ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-09-04  8:52           ` [virtio-dev] " Xuan Zhuo
2023-09-04 10:26             ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-09-04 11:11               ` Heng Qi
2023-09-04 12:21                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-04 13:28                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-04 13:40                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-05  2:55                   ` Xuan Zhuo [this message]
2023-09-05  3:31                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-05  6:42                       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-09-05  6:51                         ` Parav Pandit

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