From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Ilya Lesokhin <ilyal@mellanox.com>
Cc: "virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
"virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org"
<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: packed ring layout proposal v3
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2017 16:21:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171029162117-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM4PR0501MB2723177BF4E5EE32CC878E8CD4580@AM4PR0501MB2723.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
If you do this whats the point of the id? Just use descriptor offset
like virtio 0 did.
On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 09:05:01AM +0000, Ilya Lesokhin wrote:
> My point was that if the driver is not required to change the IDs,
> it can initialized the ID's in all the descriptors when the ring is created
> and never write the ID field again.
>
> A simple allocator for the IDs can solve the problem I presented but it is still more
> expensive then not doing ID allocation at all.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin [mailto:mst@redhat.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 7:20 PM
> > To: Ilya Lesokhin <ilyal@mellanox.com>
> > Cc: virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org; virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
> > Subject: Re: packed ring layout proposal v3
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 08, 2017 at 06:16:44AM +0000, Ilya Lesokhin wrote:
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: virtualization-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org
> > > > > [mailto:virtualization-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org] On
> > > > > Behalf Of Michael S. Tsirkin
> > > > >
> > > > > This is an update from v2 version.
> > > >> ...
> > > > > When driver descriptors are chained in this way, multiple
> > > > > descriptors are treated as a part of a single transaction
> > > > > containing an optional write buffer followed by an optional read buffer.
> > > > > All descriptors in the chain must have the same ID.
> > > > >
> > >
> > > I apologize for the repost, I didn't realize I have to be a member of
> > > the virtio-dev mailing list.
> > >
> > > I'm concerned about the "same ID" requirement in chained descriptors.
> >
> > It's there really just so we can remove the doubt about which descriptor's ID
> > should be used. My testing does not show a performance win from this, so I'm
> > fine with removing this requirement though I'd be curious to know why is it a
> > problem.
> >
> > > Assuming out of order execution, how is the driver supposed to
> > > re-assign unique IDs to the previously chained descriptor?
> >
> > For example, driver can have a simple allocator for the IDs.
> >
> >
> > > Is the driver expected to copy original IDs somewhere else before the
> > > chaining and then restore the IDs after the chain is executed?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ilya
> >
> > As device overwrites the ID, driver will have to write it out each time, that's true.
> > It's going to be a requirement even if descriptors on the chain do not need to
> > have the same ID.
> >
> > --
> > MST
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2017-09-10 5:06 [virtio-dev] packed ring layout proposal v3 Michael S. Tsirkin
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2017-07-10 16:27 ` [virtio-dev] packed ring layout proposal v2 Amnon Ilan
2017-07-16 6:00 ` Lior Narkis
2017-07-18 16:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-19 7:41 ` Lior Narkis
2017-07-20 13:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-11 7:47 ` [virtio-dev] Re: packed ring layout proposal v3 Jason Wang
2017-09-12 16:23 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-09-13 1:26 ` Jason Wang
2017-09-12 16:20 ` [virtio-dev] " Willem de Bruijn
2017-09-20 9:11 ` Liang, Cunming
2017-09-25 22:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-26 23:38 ` Steven Luong (sluong)
2017-09-27 23:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-28 9:44 ` Liang, Cunming
2017-10-01 4:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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2017-10-04 12:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-10 9:56 ` Liang, Cunming
2017-09-28 21:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-21 13:36 ` Liang, Cunming
2017-09-28 21:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-08 6:16 ` [virtio-dev] " Ilya Lesokhin
2017-10-25 16:20 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-29 9:05 ` [virtio-dev] " Ilya Lesokhin
2017-10-29 14:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2017-10-29 14:34 ` Ilya Lesokhin
2017-10-30 2:08 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-30 6:30 ` [virtio-dev] " Ilya Lesokhin
2017-10-30 16:30 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
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