From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: si-wei liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com>,
"Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
Siwei Liu <loseweigh@gmail.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
virtio-dev <virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
"Brandeburg, Jesse" <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@intel.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl>, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
liran.alon@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: net_failover slave udev renaming (was Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v6 4/4] netvsc: refactor notifier/event handling code to use the bypass framework)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 21:05:24 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190225210428-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190225173912.26b93422@shemminger-XPS-13-9360>
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 05:39:12PM -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > >>> Moreover, you were suggesting hiding the lower slave devices anyway. There was some discussion
> > >>> about moving them to a hidden network namespace so that they are not visible from the default namespace.
> > >>> I looked into this sometime back, but did not find the right kernel api to create a network namespace within
> > >>> kernel. If so, we could use this mechanism to simulate a 1-netdev model.
> > >> Yes, that's one possible implementation (IMHO the key is to make 1-netdev
> > >> model as much transparent to a real NIC as possible, while a hidden netns is
> > >> just the vehicle). However, I recall there was resistance around this
> > >> discussion that even the concept of hiding itself is a taboo for Linux
> > >> netdev. I would like to summon potential alternatives before concluding
> > >> 1-netdev is the only solution too soon.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> -Siwei
> > > Your scripts would not work at all then, right?
> > At this point we don't claim images with such usage as SR-IOV live
> > migrate-able. We would flag it as live migrate-able until this ethtool
> > config issue is fully addressed and a transparent live migration
> > solution emerges in upstream eventually.
>
> The hyper-v netvsc with 1-dev model uses a timeout to allow udev to do its rename.
> I proposed a patch to key state change off of the udev rename, but that patch was
> rejected.
Of course that would mean nothing works without udev - was
that the objection? Could you help me find that discussion pls?
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Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-10 18:59 [virtio-dev] [RFC PATCH net-next v6 0/4] Enable virtio_net to act as a backup for a passthru device Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-10 18:59 ` [virtio-dev] [RFC PATCH net-next v6 1/4] virtio_net: Introduce VIRTIO_NET_F_BACKUP feature bit Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-10 18:59 ` [virtio-dev] [RFC PATCH net-next v6 2/4] net: Introduce generic bypass module Sridhar Samudrala
[not found] ` <20180411155127.GQ2028@nanopsycho>
2018-04-11 19:13 ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
[not found] ` <20180418092515.GB1989@nanopsycho>
2018-04-18 18:43 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
[not found] ` <20180418191315.GA1922@nanopsycho>
2018-04-18 19:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20180418203206.GC1922@nanopsycho>
2018-04-18 22:46 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-19 4:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-10 18:59 ` [virtio-dev] [RFC PATCH net-next v6 3/4] virtio_net: Extend virtio to use VF datapath when available Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-10 18:59 ` [virtio-dev] [RFC PATCH net-next v6 4/4] netvsc: refactor notifier/event handling code to use the bypass framework Sridhar Samudrala
[not found] ` <20180410142608.50f15b45@xeon-e3>
2018-04-10 22:56 ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-10 23:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-10 23:44 ` Siwei Liu
[not found] ` <20180411075334.GK2028@nanopsycho>
2019-02-22 1:14 ` [virtio-dev] net_failover slave udev renaming (was Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v6 4/4] netvsc: refactor notifier/event handling code to use the bypass framework) Siwei Liu
2019-02-22 1:39 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-22 3:33 ` si-wei liu
2019-02-22 7:00 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2019-02-22 7:55 ` si-wei liu
2019-02-22 12:58 ` Rob Miller
2019-02-22 15:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-26 0:58 ` si-wei liu
[not found] ` <20190225173912.26b93422@shemminger-XPS-13-9360>
2019-02-26 2:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2019-02-27 0:49 ` si-wei liu
2019-02-26 2:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-27 0:17 ` si-wei liu
[not found] ` <20190227135732.04cbced3@shemminger-XPS-13-9360>
2019-02-27 22:30 ` si-wei liu
2019-02-27 22:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-27 23:34 ` si-wei liu
2019-02-27 23:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28 0:38 ` si-wei liu
2019-02-28 0:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20190227165205.307ed83c@cakuba.netronome.com>
2019-02-28 1:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20190227175218.736e13b6@cakuba.netronome.com>
2019-02-28 4:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20190228101356.39ac70aa@cakuba.netronome.com>
2019-02-28 19:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28 9:32 ` si-wei liu
2019-02-28 14:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-01 1:30 ` si-wei liu
2019-03-01 13:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-01 20:55 ` si-wei liu
[not found] ` <20190227160342.788dc2b4@shemminger-XPS-13-9360>
2019-02-28 0:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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