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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, Sage Weil <sweil@redhat.com>,
	Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] [PATCH v5 1/2] content: add virtio file system device
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 18:03:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190805170330.GR13734@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190805173848.1dda2077.cohuck@redhat.com>

* Cornelia Huck (cohuck@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Aug 2019 16:49:51 +0100
> Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 11:58:46AM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > > On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 10:53:37 +0100
> > > Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com> wrote:  
> 
> > > > +\subsubsection{Device Operation: Request Queues}\label{sec:Device Types / File System Device / Device Operation / Device Operation: Request Queues}
> > > > +
> > > > +The driver enqueues normal requests on an arbitrary request queue and they are
> > > > +completed by the device on that same queue.  
> > > 
> > > Do we need a device normative statement that requests MUST be completed
> > > on the queue they have been submitted on?  
> > 
> > That would be impossible since the request struct has both IN and OUT
> > elements.  virtio-fs is a request+response queue design like
> > virtio-blk/virtio-scsi, not a rx/tx queue design like
> > virtio-net/virtio-vsock.
> 
> Hm, now I'm confused -- what is impossible here? That the requests are
> completed somewhere else?

Correct - because the response goes back in elements in the same request
struct you can't split them.

Dave

> (If so, we don't need an extra statement.)

> 
> > 
> > >   
> > > > The device processes requests in
> > > > +any order.  The driver is responsible for ensuring that ordering constraints
> > > > +are met by making available a dependent request only after its prerequisite
> > > > +request has been used.
> > > > +
> > > > +Requests have the following format:  
> > > 
> > > These can be either LE or BE from what is stated below, right? Maybe
> > > spell it out here already?  
> > 
> > I will add "with the endianness chosen by the driver as detailed below".
> 
> Sounds good.
> 
> > 
> > >   
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > > +struct virtio_fs_req {
> > > > +        // Device-readable part
> > > > +        struct fuse_in_header in;
> > > > +        u8 datain[];
> > > > +
> > > > +        // Device-writable part
> > > > +        struct fuse_out_header out;
> > > > +        u8 dataout[];
> > > > +};
> > > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > > +
> > > > +Note that the words "in" and "out" follow the FUSE meaning and do not indicate
> > > > +the direction of data transfer under VIRTIO.  "In" means input to a request and
> > > > +"out" means output from processing a request.
> > > > +
> > > > +\field{in} is the common header for all types of FUSE requests.
> > > > +
> > > > +\field{datain} consists of request-specific data, if any.  This is identical to
> > > > +the data read from the /dev/fuse device by a FUSE daemon.
> > > > +
> > > > +\field{out} is the completion header common to all types of FUSE requests.
> > > > +
> > > > +\field{dataout} consists of request-specific data, if any.  This is identical
> > > > +to the data written to the /dev/fuse device by a FUSE daemon.
> > > > +
> > > > +For example, the full layout of a FUSE\_READ request is as follows:
> > > > +
> > > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > > +struct virtio_fs_read_req {
> > > > +        // Device-readable part
> > > > +        struct fuse_in_header in;
> > > > +        union {
> > > > +                struct fuse_read_in readin;
> > > > +                u8 datain[sizeof(struct fuse_read_in)];
> > > > +        };
> > > > +
> > > > +        // Device-writable part
> > > > +        struct fuse_out_header out;
> > > > +        u8 dataout[out.len - sizeof(struct fuse_out_header)];
> > > > +};
> > > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > > +
> > > > +The FUSE protocol documented in \hyperref[intro:FUSE]{FUSE} specifies the set
> > > > +of request types and their contents.
> > > > +
> > > > +The endianness of the FUSE protocol session is detectable by inspecting the
> > > > +uint32\_t \field{in.opcode} field of the FUSE\_INIT request sent by the driver
> > > > +to the device.  This allows the device to determine whether the session is
> > > > +little-endian or big-endian.  
> > > 
> > > Do we need a driver normative statement that the driver MUST NOT send a
> > > request with a different endianness once it established the session's
> > > endianness via FUSE_INIT?  
> > 
> > It is valid to send another FUSE_INIT to switch to a fresh session.  In
> > that case the driver could change the endianness again.  I think we want
> > this just in case a weird system without fixed endianness has a
> > bootloader running in little-endian and a guest kernel running in
> > big-endian, for example.
> 
> Yes, it's probably a good idea to spell that out.
> 
> > 
> > I will document this in the next revision.
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-05 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-26  9:53 [virtio-dev] [PATCH v5 0/2] virtio-fs: add virtio file system device Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-26  9:53 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v5 1/2] content: " Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-31  9:58   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-02 15:49     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-05 15:38       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-08-05 17:03         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2019-08-03 21:12   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-13  9:07     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-13 11:24       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-13 15:13         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-03 21:21   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-13  9:35     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-26  9:53 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v5 2/2] virtio-fs: add DAX window Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-26 11:41   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-12 13:55     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-26 12:27 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v5 0/2] virtio-fs: add virtio file system device Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-26 12:34   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-08-12 13:56     ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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