From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>,
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"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v9 0/8] stg mail -e --version=v9 \
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 08:08:38 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190911080804-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190911113619.GP4023@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 01:36:19PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 10-09-19 14:23:40, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> [...]
> > We don't put any limitations on the allocator other then that it needs to
> > clean up the metadata on allocation, and that it cannot allocate a page
> > that is in the process of being reported since we pulled it from the
> > free_list. If the page is a "Reported" page then it decrements the
> > reported_pages count for the free_area and makes sure the page doesn't
> > exist in the "Boundary" array pointer value, if it does it moves the
> > "Boundary" since it is pulling the page.
>
> This is still a non-trivial limitation on the page allocation from an
> external code IMHO. I cannot give any explicit reason why an ordering on
> the free list might matter (well except for page shuffling which uses it
> to make physical memory pattern allocation more random) but the
> architecture seems hacky and dubious to be honest. It shoulds like the
> whole interface has been developed around a very particular and single
> purpose optimization.
>
> I remember that there was an attempt to report free memory that provided
> a callback mechanism [1], which was much less intrusive to the internals
> of the allocator yet it should provide a similar functionality. Did you
> see that approach? How does this compares to it? Or am I completely off
> when comparing them?
>
> [1] mostly likely not the latest version of the patchset
> http://lkml.kernel.org/r/1502940416-42944-5-git-send-email-wei.w.wang@intel.com
>
> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs
Linus nacked that one. He thinks invoking callbacks with lots of
internal mm locks is too fragile.
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2019-09-07 17:25 [virtio-dev] [PATCH v9 0/8] stg mail -e --version=v9 \ Alexander Duyck
2019-09-07 17:25 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v9 1/8] mm: Add per-cpu logic to page shuffling Alexander Duyck
2019-09-09 8:14 ` [virtio-dev] " David Hildenbrand
2019-09-09 15:11 ` Alexander Duyck
[not found] ` <20190910121130.GU2063@dhcp22.suse.cz>
2019-09-10 22:14 ` Alexander Duyck
2019-09-10 22:11 ` Alexander Duyck
[not found] ` <20190909090701.7ebz4foxyu3rxzvc@box>
2019-09-09 15:12 ` Alexander Duyck
2019-09-07 17:25 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v9 2/8] mm: Adjust shuffle code to allow for future coalescing Alexander Duyck
2019-09-09 8:19 ` [virtio-dev] " David Hildenbrand
[not found] ` <20190909094700.bbslsxpuwvxmodal@box>
2019-09-09 15:22 ` Alexander Duyck
[not found] ` <20190909153529.3crs74uraos27ffh@box>
2019-09-09 15:37 ` Alexander Duyck
2019-09-09 16:43 ` Alexander Duyck
[not found] ` <20190910122030.GV2063@dhcp22.suse.cz>
2019-09-10 14:48 ` Alexander Duyck
2019-09-07 17:25 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v9 3/8] mm: Move set/get_pcppage_migratetype to mmzone.h Alexander Duyck
2019-09-09 8:22 ` [virtio-dev] " David Hildenbrand
[not found] ` <20190909095608.jwachx3womhqmjbl@box>
2019-09-09 18:01 ` Alexander Duyck
2019-09-09 18:12 ` Alexander Duyck
[not found] ` <20190910122313.GW2063@dhcp22.suse.cz>
2019-09-10 14:46 ` Alexander Duyck
[not found] ` <20190910174553.GC4023@dhcp22.suse.cz>
2019-09-10 20:26 ` Alexander Duyck
2019-09-07 17:25 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v9 4/8] mm: Use zone and order instead of free area in free_list manipulators Alexander Duyck
2019-09-07 17:25 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v9 5/8] arm64: Move hugetlb related definitions out of pgtable.h to page-defs.h Alexander Duyck
2019-09-09 8:52 ` [virtio-dev] " David Hildenbrand
2019-09-09 15:27 ` Alexander Duyck
[not found] ` <20190917174853.5csycb5pb5zalsxd@willie-the-truck>
2019-09-17 20:07 ` Alexander Duyck
2019-09-07 17:25 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v9 6/8] mm: Introduce Reported pages Alexander Duyck
[not found] ` <20190909144209.jcrx6o3ntecdaqmh@box>
2019-09-09 16:25 ` [virtio-dev] " Alexander Duyck
2019-09-07 17:26 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v9 7/8] virtio-balloon: Pull page poisoning config out of free page hinting Alexander Duyck
2019-09-09 8:59 ` [virtio-dev] " David Hildenbrand
2019-09-09 15:31 ` Alexander Duyck
2019-09-07 17:26 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v9 8/8] virtio-balloon: Add support for providing unused page reports to host Alexander Duyck
2019-09-07 17:34 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v9 0/8] mm / virtio: Provide support for unused page reporting Alexander Duyck
[not found] ` <20190910124209.GY2063@dhcp22.suse.cz>
2019-09-10 14:42 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v9 0/8] stg mail -e --version=v9 \ Alexander Duyck
[not found] ` <20190910144713.GF2063@dhcp22.suse.cz>
2019-09-10 16:05 ` Alexander Duyck
2019-09-10 16:18 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-09-10 16:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-09-11 9:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-09-11 9:50 ` David Hildenbrand
[not found] ` <20190910175213.GD4023@dhcp22.suse.cz>
[not found] ` <20190910180026.GE4023@dhcp22.suse.cz>
2019-09-10 20:37 ` Alexander Duyck
2019-09-10 21:23 ` Alexander Duyck
[not found] ` <20190911113619.GP4023@dhcp22.suse.cz>
2019-09-11 11:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-09-11 12:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
[not found] ` <20190911121941.GU4023@dhcp22.suse.cz>
[not found] ` <20190911122526.GV4023@dhcp22.suse.cz>
2019-09-11 12:42 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-09-11 12:55 ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
[not found] ` <20190911125413.GY4023@dhcp22.suse.cz>
2019-09-11 13:03 ` David Hildenbrand
[not found] ` <20190911132002.GA4023@dhcp22.suse.cz>
2019-09-11 14:03 ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-09-11 16:02 ` David Hildenbrand
[not found] ` <20190911135100.GC4023@dhcp22.suse.cz>
2019-09-11 16:09 ` David Hildenbrand
[not found] ` <20190912071633.GL4023@dhcp22.suse.cz>
2019-09-12 7:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-09-12 12:00 ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-09-11 13:19 ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-09-11 15:12 ` Alexander Duyck
[not found] ` <20190912091925.GM4023@dhcp22.suse.cz>
2019-09-12 15:42 ` Alexander Duyck
[not found] ` <20190912163525.GV2739@techsingularity.net>
2019-09-12 17:48 ` Alexander Duyck
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