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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: Vitaly Mireyno <vmireyno@marvell.com>,
	"virtio-networking@redhat.com" <virtio-networking@redhat.com>,
	Virtio-Dev <virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	Ariel Elior <aelior@marvell.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [Virtio-networking] Doorbell mapping of vDPA
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 06:06:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200417060640-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <725d5f08-de6c-e918-7df3-6c9fc6c31a27@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 05:59:29PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> 
> On 2020/4/17 下午5:37, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 05:31:20PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > On 2020/4/17 下午2:39, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 12:22:04PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > > On 2020/4/17 下午12:19, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > > > On 2020/4/15 上午12:20, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 01:12:51PM +0000, Vitaly Mireyno wrote:
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From:virtio-networking-bounces@redhat.com
> > > > > > > > > <virtio-networking-bounces@redhat.com>  On Behalf
> > > > > > > > > Of Jason Wang
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 7 April, 2020 10:56
> > > > > > > > > To:virtio-networking@redhat.com; Virtio-Dev
> > > > > > > > > <virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > > > > > > > > Cc: Michael S. Tsirkin<mst@redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [Virtio-networking] Doorbell mapping of vDPA
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > > Hi all:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > To get native performance of VF, we need to map doorbell to
> > > > > > > > > guest to avoid unnecessary vmexit. In
> > > > > > > > > order to do this, we will launch qemu with page-per-vq=on.
> > > > > > > > > This means the each doorbell register
> > > > > > > > > should be located at the beginning of 4K page and does not
> > > > > > > > > share the page with other registers. Then
> > > > > > > > > vDPA framework can safely map it into the guest physical
> > > > > > > > > address (GPA) range defined by qemu. It
> > > > > > > > > could be either
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 1) a single doorbell register that is used by all virtqueues
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 2) several different per-vq doorbell registers
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > If you decide to implement a virtio-pci register layout,
> > > > > > > > > need to make sure for notification structure
> > > > > > > > > (4.1.4.4 of virtio spec):
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > For each virtqueue, the result
> > > > > > > > > ofcap.offset+queue_notify_off*notify_off_multiplier is PAGE_SIZE (e.g
> > > > > > > > > 4K) alignment, and the doorbeel does not share the page with
> > > > > > > > > other registers.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > And it would be better if queue_notify_off,
> > > > > > > > > notify_off_multiplier can be changed via firmware for
> > > > > > > > > extra flexibility.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > In some cases, these conditions could not be met for a
> > > > > > > > virtio-net hardware device over PCI transport.
> > > > > > > > queue_notify and notify_off_multiplier could not always be fully
> > > > > > > > controlled by the firmware. There could be hardware limitations
> > > > > > > > on flexibility degree of these parameters.
> > > > > > > > Specifically, the limitations I'm thinking of are:
> > > > > > > >     * queue_notify_off>0 and notify_off_multiplier>0
> > > > > > > >     * Several doorbell registers of several virtqueues share the
> > > > > > > > same page (but don't share the page with other registers).
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Can this be supported in vDPA with direct doorbell mapping?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > There's value in being able to intercept some vqs in software
> > > > > > > while the rest of vqs are handled in hardware.
> > > > > > > E.g. that's the case for e.g. the control vq.
> > > > > > Good point, so in this case, the doorbell of control vq must exclusively
> > > > > > own a page.
> > > > > Or we need intercept the doorbells that share a page with control vq
> > > > > doorbell.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > Which could be all of them. E.g. with a 4 byte offset, we are
> > > > talking 1K VQs per a 4k page.
> > > Yes, so as I replied in another thread. The doorbell of control vq should
> > > not share page with other doorbells.
> > Except page size can be as big as 64k on some systems.
> > The best thing is really if device just allows driver to write
> > anywhere within the page, taking VQ number from the data.
> > 
> 
> Just to make sure I understand, then there's no way to map them to guest?
> 
> Thanks


Then you can map them at any offset.

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MST


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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2020-04-14 16:20 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [Virtio-networking] Doorbell mapping of vDPA Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-04-17  4:19   ` Jason Wang
2020-04-17  4:22     ` Jason Wang
2020-04-17  6:39       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-04-17  9:31         ` Jason Wang
2020-04-17  9:37           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-04-17  9:59             ` Jason Wang
2020-04-17 10:06               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2020-04-17 10:25                 ` Jason Wang
2020-04-17 11:00                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-04-20  2:03                     ` Jason Wang
2020-04-20  5:33                     ` Jason Wang
2020-04-17  6:37     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-04-17  9:29       ` Jason Wang
2020-04-17  9:34         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-04-17  4:15 ` Jason Wang
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2020-04-17  8:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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2020-04-17  9:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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2020-04-17 13:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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