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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	Zha Bin <zhabin@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Jing Liu <jing2.liu@linux.intel.com>,
	Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] On doorbells (queue notifications)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:09:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200715190939.60b562f9.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871rlcybni.fsf@linaro.org>

On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 17:40:33 +0100
Alex Bennée <alex.bennee@linaro.org> wrote:

> I was also wondering about the efficiency of doorbells/notifications the
> other way. AFAIUI for both PCI and MMIO only a single write is required
> to the notify flag which causes a trap to the hypervisor and the rest of
> the processing. The hypervisor doesn't have the cost multiple exits to
> read the guest state although it obviously wants to be as efficient as
> possible passing the data back up to what ever is handling the backend
> of the device so it doesn't need to do multiple context switches.
> 
> Has there been any investigation into other mechanisms for notifying the
> hypervisor of an event - for example using a HYP call or similar
> mechanism?

For ccw devices, we do a 'diagnose' call (which is basically a
hypercall). It has some parameters (including the queue the guest is
notifying for), so the host already has that information when the exit
happens.

> My gut tells me this probably doesn't make any difference as a trap to
> the hypervisor is likely to cost the same either way because you still
> need to save the guest context before actioning something but it would
> be interesting to know if anyone has looked at it. Perhaps there is a
> benefit in partitioned systems where core running the guest can return
> straight away after initiating what it needs to internally in the
> hypervisor to pass the notification to something that can deal with it?

I guess that depends mostly upon whether there is further interaction
needed, or if the guest can give the host all needed info in one go.


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  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-15 17:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-14 21:43 [virtio-dev] On doorbells (queue notifications) Alex Bennée
2020-07-15 11:48 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-15 13:29   ` Alex Bennée
2020-07-15 15:47     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-15 16:40       ` Alex Bennée
2020-07-15 17:09         ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2020-07-16 10:00         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-16 11:25           ` Christophe de Dinechin
2020-07-16 14:19             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-16 14:31               ` Christophe de Dinechin
2020-07-16 14:34               ` Christophe de Dinechin
2020-07-17  8:42                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-15 17:01       ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-15 17:25         ` Alex Bennée
2020-07-15 20:04           ` Halil Pasic
2020-07-16  9:41             ` Cornelia Huck

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