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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Nikos Dragazis <ndragazis@arrikto.com>
Cc: "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] [PATCH v5 01/10] vhost-user: add vhost-user device type
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:52:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200729094956-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21ded3b5-1337-960b-b8ee-bdf6dea4eb93@arrikto.com>

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 09:59:36PM +0300, Nikos Dragazis wrote:
> On 27/7/20 3:25 μ.μ., Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 08:31:48PM +0300, Nikos Dragazis wrote:
> > > On 24/7/20 5:41 μ.μ., Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 10:26:35AM +0100, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > > So how about XXX notifications for both of these things?
> > > > Where XXX explains what is the reason for triggering each
> > > > type of notification.
> > > I guess Stefan introduced the term "doorbell" because it is a widely
> > > used term (e.g., in NVMe devices) and I think it is a pretty good
> > > term. However, I agree that the vague term "notification" may cause
> > > confusion.
> > > 
> > > Replacing "doorbells" and "notifications" with "XXX notifications"
> > > sounds good. I can't think of some good terms for XXX right now.
> > > Feel free to propose.
> > Device-specific notifications and device-specific doorbells?

Um. What does this mean exactly?
Really I am guessing you are notifying about some kind of event.
So let's call it according to this event then.

> > 
> > I think these concepts should be part of the core VIRTIO device model so
> > that other devices can also define device-specific
> > notifications/doorbells in the future.
> > 
> > Stefan
> 
> I think that Michael is OK with standardizing these resources, but he is
> not really happy with the term "doorbell".
> 
> From the one hand, using the term "XXX notification" would be more
> consistent with the virtio spec, since virtio already uses the term
> "notification" for driver-to-device signaling regarding the virtqueues.
> 
> On the other hand, I can't find something for XXX that would sound
> better than "doorbell".
> 
> But let's see what Michael has to say.
> 
> Nikos

"doorbells" is generally like available buffer notifications that we
have in virtio. I am still not sure what does it mean in this context.

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-29 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-18 20:37 [virtio-dev] [PATCH v5 00/10] introduce virtio vhost-user backend device type Nikos Dragazis
2020-05-18 20:37 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v5 01/10] vhost-user: add vhost-user " Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-16 16:45   ` Alex Bennée
2020-07-17  9:26     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-17 10:28       ` Alex Bennée
2020-07-17 11:17       ` Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-20  9:37         ` Alex Bennée
2020-07-21 11:42           ` Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-23  6:15         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-24 13:14           ` Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-24 14:41       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-07-24 17:31         ` Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-27 12:25           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-27 18:59             ` Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-29 13:52               ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2020-07-29 21:05                 ` Nikos Dragazis
2020-08-24 14:43                   ` Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-17 16:52     ` Nikos Dragazis
2020-05-18 20:37 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v5 02/10] vhost-user: minor fixes Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-16 16:48   ` Alex Bennée
2020-07-17  9:27   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-05-18 20:37 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v5 03/10] vhost-user: add requirements for the notification capability Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-17  9:34   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-17 16:02     ` Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-23  6:16       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-05-18 20:37 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v5 04/10] vhost-user: update shared memory capability Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-17  9:36   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-17 15:00     ` Nikos Dragazis
2020-05-18 20:37 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v5 05/10] vhost-user: add conformance targets and clauses Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-17  9:37   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-20 15:01   ` Alex Bennée
2020-05-18 20:37 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v5 06/10] vhost-user: change the device id Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-20 15:03   ` Alex Bennée
2020-05-18 20:37 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v5 07/10] vhost-user: minor fix on status register Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-17  9:39   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-05-18 20:37 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v5 08/10] vhost-user: remove the extra PCI capabilities Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-17  9:48   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-17 15:03     ` Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-23  6:29       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-24 13:41         ` Nikos Dragazis
2020-05-18 20:37 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v5 09/10] vhost-user: intercept slave's reply to VHOST_USER_GET_PROTOCOL_FEATURES Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-17  9:57   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-07-17 15:37     ` Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-23  6:32       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-05-18 20:37 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v5 10/10] vhost-user: clarify that we are talking about slave-initiated messages Nikos Dragazis
2020-07-17  9:59   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-06-24 18:01 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v5 00/10] introduce virtio vhost-user backend device type Nikos Dragazis

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