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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jie Deng <jie.deng@intel.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, cohuck@redhat.com,
	kraxel@redhat.com, wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com,
	andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com, conghui.chen@intel.com,
	yu1.wang@intel.com, shuo.a.liu@intel.com
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH v5] virtio-i2c: add the device specification
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 14:05:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201218155526-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ccc5889-4e28-deac-8168-c6f0665231c1@intel.com>

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 10:06:45AM +0800, Jie Deng wrote:
> 
> On 2020/12/17 18:26, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 03:00:55AM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 03:08:07PM +0800, Jie Deng wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >          +The \field{flags} of the request is currently reserved as zero for future
> > > >          +feature extensibility.
> > > >          +
> > > >          +The \field{written} of the request is the number of data bytes in the \field{write_buf}
> > > >          +being written to the I2C slave address.
> > > > 
> > > >      This field seems redundant since the device can determine the size of
> > > >      write_buf implicitly from the total out buffer size. virtio-blk takes
> > > >      this approach.
> > > > 
> > > > The read/write are the actual number of data bytes being read from or written
> > > > to the device
> > > > which is not determined by the device. So I don't think it is redundant.
> > > I am still not sure I understand the difference.
> > > This point is unclear to multiple people.
> > I think I get it now. This is made clear by splitting the struct:
> > 
> >    /* Driver->device fields */
> >    struct virtio_i2c_out_hdr
> >    {
> >        le16 addr;
> >        le16 padding;
> >        le32 flags;
> >    };
> > 
> >    /* Device->driver fields */
> >    struct virtio_i2c_in_hdr
> >    {
> >        le16 written;
> >        le16 read;
> >        u8 status;
> >    };
> 
> written/read are not device->driver fields. They are driver->device fields.
> They are not determined by the device but the driver(user).
> 
> However, Michael said that the two fields may duplicate buf size available
> in the descriptor. He intended to remove them.
> 
> "
> I note that read and written actually duplicate buf size
> available in the descriptor.
> Given we no longer mirror i2c_msg 1:1 do we still want to do this?
> It will be trivial for the host device to populate these fields
> correctly for linux.
> Duplication of information iten leads to errors ...
> "
> 
> But there is a corner case I'm not sure if you have noticed.
> 
> read and written can be 0. I think we may not put a buf with size 0 into the
> virtqueue.

You always have the header and the status, right?
E.g. with the below, the total buffer size is virtio_i2c_out_hdr size +
write size for writes and read size + virtio_i2c_in_hdr size for reads.
Neither result is ever 0.

> @Stefan @Paolo
> 
> So what's your opinion about these two fields ?
> 
> >    /*
> >     * Virtqueue element layout looks like this:
> >     *
> >     * struct virtio_i2c_out_hdr out_hdr; /* OUT */
> >     * u8 write_buf[]; /* OUT */
> >     * u8 read_buf[]; /* IN */
> >     * struct virtio_i2c_in_hdr in_hdr; /* IN */
> >     */
> > 
> > This makes sense to me: a bi-directional request has both write_buf[]
> > and read_buf[] so the vring used.len field is not enough to report back
> > how many bytes were written and read. The virtio_i2c_in_hdr fields are
> > really needed.
> > 
> > Please split the struct in the spec so it's clear how this works.


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  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-19 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-25  5:55 [virtio-comment] [PATCH v5] virtio-i2c: add the device specification Jie Deng
2020-11-25 12:52 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-11-26  2:58   ` [virtio-comment] " Jie Deng
2020-12-08  1:08 ` Jie Deng
2020-12-16 15:52 ` [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-17  7:08   ` Jie Deng
2020-12-17  8:00     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-17 10:26       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-18  2:06         ` Jie Deng
2020-12-19 19:05           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2020-12-22  6:11             ` Jie Deng
2020-12-22 11:29               ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-22 22:31                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-24  8:15                   ` Jie Deng
2020-12-17 10:43     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-16 17:38 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-16 19:55   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-17  8:38     ` Jie Deng
2020-12-17 19:43       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-18  1:21         ` Jie Deng
2020-12-17  7:29   ` Jie Deng
2020-12-17  7:56     ` Cornelia Huck

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