From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Jie Deng <jie.deng@intel.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, kraxel@redhat.com,
wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com,
andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com, conghui.chen@intel.com,
yu1.wang@intel.com, shuo.a.liu@intel.com
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH v5] virtio-i2c: add the device specification
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 12:29:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201222122909.3168620a.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20b91229-e938-66fb-464b-c85c1dbcde96@intel.com>
On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 14:11:24 +0800
Jie Deng <jie.deng@intel.com> wrote:
> On 2020/12/20 3:05, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 10:06:45AM +0800, Jie Deng wrote:
> >> On 2020/12/17 18:26, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 03:00:55AM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 03:08:07PM +0800, Jie Deng wrote:
> >>>>> +The \field{flags} of the request is currently reserved as zero for future
> >>>>> +feature extensibility.
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> +The \field{written} of the request is the number of data bytes in the \field{write_buf}
> >>>>> +being written to the I2C slave address.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This field seems redundant since the device can determine the size of
> >>>>> write_buf implicitly from the total out buffer size. virtio-blk takes
> >>>>> this approach.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The read/write are the actual number of data bytes being read from or written
> >>>>> to the device
> >>>>> which is not determined by the device. So I don't think it is redundant.
> >>>> I am still not sure I understand the difference.
> >>>> This point is unclear to multiple people.
> >>> I think I get it now. This is made clear by splitting the struct:
> >>>
> >>> /* Driver->device fields */
> >>> struct virtio_i2c_out_hdr
> >>> {
> >>> le16 addr;
> >>> le16 padding;
> >>> le32 flags;
> >>> };
> >>>
> >>> /* Device->driver fields */
> >>> struct virtio_i2c_in_hdr
> >>> {
> >>> le16 written;
> >>> le16 read;
> >>> u8 status;
> >>> };
> >> written/read are not device->driver fields. They are driver->device fields.
> >> They are not determined by the device but the driver(user).
> >>
> >> However, Michael said that the two fields may duplicate buf size available
> >> in the descriptor. He intended to remove them.
> >>
> >> "
> >> I note that read and written actually duplicate buf size
> >> available in the descriptor.
> >> Given we no longer mirror i2c_msg 1:1 do we still want to do this?
> >> It will be trivial for the host device to populate these fields
> >> correctly for linux.
> >> Duplication of information iten leads to errors ...
> >> "
> >>
> >> But there is a corner case I'm not sure if you have noticed.
> >>
> >> read and written can be 0. I think we may not put a buf with size 0 into the
> >> virtqueue.
> > You always have the header and the status, right?
> > E.g. with the below, the total buffer size is virtio_i2c_out_hdr size +
> > write size for writes and read size + virtio_i2c_in_hdr size for reads.
> > Neither result is ever 0.
>
> Then how to distinguish the request type the buffer contains.
I have read through the thread and I remain confused.
>
> Each type will have both virtio_i2c_out_hdr and virtio_i2c_in_hdr.
> the backend can know the type by checking the read/written.
>
> If the read=0 and the written>0, the request is a write request
> The buffer may contains 3 scatterlist:
>
> virtio_i2c_out_hdr // scatterlist[0]
So, what does virtio_i2c_{out,in}_hdr contain here? If it is the one from
above, ...
>
> buf[/* this is write data, since read = 0 */] // scatterlist[1]
>
> virtio_i2c_in_hdr // scatterlist[2]
...we do not know whether there's read data, write data, or what their
length is, until we've actually consumed the whole buffer, and then we
have to go backwards.
>
> If the read>0 and the written=0, the request is a read request.
> The buffer may contains 3 scatterlist:
>
> virtio_i2c_out_hdr // scatterlist[0]
>
> buf[/* This is read data, since written = 0 */] // scatterlist[1]
>
> virtio_i2c_in_hdr // scatterlist[2]
>
> If the read>0 and the written>0, the request is a write-read request.
> The buffer may contains 4 scatterlist:
>
> virtio_i2c_out_hdr // scatterlist[0]
>
> buf[/*write data*/] // scatterlist[1]
>
> buf[/*read data*/] // scatterlist[2]
>
> virtio_i2c_in_hdr // scatterlist[3]
Is there any reason why we need to infer the type of the request by
checking some lengths? Can't we just specify explicit flags for read
and write? What am I missing?
>
> >> @Stefan @Paolo
> >>
> >> So what's your opinion about these two fields ?
> >>
> >>> /*
> >>> * Virtqueue element layout looks like this:
> >>> *
> >>> * struct virtio_i2c_out_hdr out_hdr; /* OUT */
> >>> * u8 write_buf[]; /* OUT */
> >>> * u8 read_buf[]; /* IN */
> >>> * struct virtio_i2c_in_hdr in_hdr; /* IN */
> >>> */
> >>>
> >>> This makes sense to me: a bi-directional request has both write_buf[]
> >>> and read_buf[] so the vring used.len field is not enough to report back
> >>> how many bytes were written and read. The virtio_i2c_in_hdr fields are
> >>> really needed.
> >>>
> >>> Please split the struct in the spec so it's clear how this works.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-22 11:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-25 5:55 [virtio-comment] [PATCH v5] virtio-i2c: add the device specification Jie Deng
2020-11-25 12:52 ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-11-26 2:58 ` [virtio-comment] " Jie Deng
2020-12-08 1:08 ` Jie Deng
2020-12-16 15:52 ` [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-17 7:08 ` Jie Deng
2020-12-17 8:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-17 10:26 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-18 2:06 ` Jie Deng
2020-12-19 19:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-22 6:11 ` Jie Deng
2020-12-22 11:29 ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2020-12-22 22:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-24 8:15 ` Jie Deng
2020-12-17 10:43 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-12-16 17:38 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-12-16 19:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-17 8:38 ` Jie Deng
2020-12-17 19:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-12-18 1:21 ` Jie Deng
2020-12-17 7:29 ` Jie Deng
2020-12-17 7:56 ` Cornelia Huck
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