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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Si-Wei Liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com>,
	elic@nvidia.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH] vdpa/mlx5: set_features should allow reset to zero
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2021 13:08:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210302130812.6227f176.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cdd72199-ac7b-cc8d-2c40-81e43162c532@redhat.com>

On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 11:51:08 +0800
Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 2021/3/1 5:25 上午, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 04:19:16PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:  
> >> On 2021/2/26 2:53 上午, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:  

> >>> Confused. What is wrong with the above? It never reads the
> >>> field unless the feature has been offered by device.  
> >>
> >> So the spec said:
> >>
> >> "
> >>
> >> The following driver-read-only field, max_virtqueue_pairs only exists if
> >> VIRTIO_NET_F_MQ is set.
> >>
> >> "
> >>
> >> If I read this correctly, there will be no max_virtqueue_pairs field if the
> >> VIRTIO_NET_F_MQ is not offered by device? If yes the offsetof() violates
> >> what spec said.
> >>
> >> Thanks  
> > I think that's a misunderstanding. This text was never intended to
> > imply that field offsets change beased on feature bits.
> > We had this pain with legacy and we never wanted to go back there.
> >
> > This merely implies that without VIRTIO_NET_F_MQ the field
> > should not be accessed. Exists in the sense "is accessible to driver".
> >
> > Let's just clarify that in the spec, job done.  
> 
> 
> Ok, agree. That will make things more eaiser.

Yes, that makes much more sense.

What about adding the following to the "Basic Facilities of a Virtio
Device/Device Configuration Space" section of the spec:

"If an optional configuration field does not exist, the corresponding
space is still present, but reserved."

(Do we need to specify what a device needs to do if the driver tries to
access a non-existing field? We cannot really make assumptions about
config space accesses; virtio-ccw can just copy a chunk of config space
that contains non-existing fields... I guess the device could ignore
writes and return zeroes on read?)

I've opened https://github.com/oasis-tcs/virtio-spec/issues/98 for the
spec issues.


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  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-02 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <605e7d2d-4f27-9688-17a8-d57191752ee7@redhat.com>
     [not found]   ` <ee31e93b-5fbb-1999-0e82-983d3e49ad1e@oracle.com>
2021-02-23  9:25     ` [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH] vdpa/mlx5: set_features should allow reset to zero Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-23  9:46       ` Jason Wang
2021-02-23 10:01         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-23 10:17           ` Jason Wang
2021-02-24  9:40             ` Jason Wang
2021-02-23 10:04         ` Cornelia Huck
2021-02-23 10:31           ` Jason Wang
2021-02-23 10:58             ` Cornelia Huck
2021-02-24  9:29               ` Jason Wang
2021-02-24 11:12                 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-02-25  4:36                   ` Jason Wang
2021-02-25 13:26                     ` Cornelia Huck
2021-02-25 18:53                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-26  8:19                       ` Jason Wang
2021-02-28 21:25                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-03-01  3:51                           ` Jason Wang
2021-03-02 12:08                             ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2021-03-03  4:01                               ` Jason Wang
2021-03-03  8:29                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-03-04  8:24                                   ` Jason Wang
2021-03-04 13:50                                     ` Cornelia Huck
2021-03-05  3:01                                       ` Jason Wang

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