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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <quic_svaddagi@quicinc.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <svaddagi@qti.qualcomm.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	Trilok Soni <quic_tsoni@quicinc.com>,
	Pratik Patel <quic_pratikp@quicinc.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v1] virtio-mmio: Specify wait needed in driver during reset
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 01:35:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210816013138-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2723b42a-f5d0-9c49-bf5c-302fbd4c947f@redhat.com>

On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 10:09:34AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> 
> 在 2021/8/11 下午6:05, Srivatsa Vaddagiri 写道:
> > * Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> [2021-08-02 14:06:38]:
> > 
> > > > Maybe if it sees status was not read it can just
> > > > stay in reset state and not exit it?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > Or I wonder we can use increase the version instead.
> > What should be the guidance for backend/devices here? Go with version 3 only if
> > it requires driver to poll on reset? Otherwise it may break existing setups -
> > lets say Qemu is updated to report version 3 which will break older guest images
> > that understood version 2 - this is despite the same Qemu being capable of
> > serving those guests.
> 
> 
> My understanding is that qemu should stick to version 2 since it works fine.
> 
> Thanks

Yes breaking all guests does not sound like a good plan.
Which is unfortunate generally.

So thinking about all this, quite early in the setup process we
have:

        /* Figure out what features the device supports. */
        device_features = dev->config->get_features(dev);


isn't this sufficient? this will flush out
all writes and device can defer responding to reads
until reset is complete.

I know it's not elegant since there are a bunch of writes like
acknowledge and driver, but hey.

How about we just add a non-normative section explaining that trick?


> 
> > 
> > - vatsa
> > 
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-16  5:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-23 14:55 [PATCH v1] virtio-mmio: Specify wait needed in driver during reset Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2021-07-26 11:03 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2021-07-26 11:25   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2021-07-26 11:36     ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2021-07-26 13:19       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-07-26 14:09         ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2021-07-26 14:17         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2021-07-26 19:03           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-07-27  9:52             ` [virtio-dev] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2021-07-29 15:21               ` Cornelia Huck
2021-07-30  3:49                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2021-08-02  6:06             ` Jason Wang
2021-08-11 10:05               ` [virtio-dev] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2021-08-16  2:09                 ` Jason Wang
2021-08-16  5:35                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <20210816063550.GD5604@quicinc.com>
2021-08-16 11:48                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-08-16 13:34                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2021-08-16 14:37                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-08-16 14:58                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2021-08-17  5:45                         ` Jason Wang
2021-08-17  7:51                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-08-17  8:15                             ` Jason Wang
2021-08-17 10:03                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2021-08-17 12:48                               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2021-08-18  2:57                                 ` Jason Wang
2021-08-18  2:54                               ` Jason Wang
2021-08-18  5:15                                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2021-08-18  5:40                                   ` Jason Wang
2021-08-18  5:51                                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2021-08-18  6:04                                       ` Jason Wang
2021-08-18  6:13                                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2021-08-24 16:57                                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2021-08-20  3:56                     ` Jason Wang
2021-08-20 11:15                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-07-26 13:18   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-07-26 14:13     ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck

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