Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v1] virtio-mmio: Specify wait needed in driver during reset

["Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>]

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:56:15AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> 
> 在 2021/8/16 下午1:35, Michael S. Tsirkin 写道:
> > On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 10:09:34AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > 在 2021/8/11 下午6:05, Srivatsa Vaddagiri 写道:
> > > > * Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> [2021-08-02 14:06:38]:
> > > > 
> > > > > > Maybe if it sees status was not read it can just
> > > > > > stay in reset state and not exit it?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > Or I wonder we can use increase the version instead.
> > > > What should be the guidance for backend/devices here? Go with version 3 only if
> > > > it requires driver to poll on reset? Otherwise it may break existing setups -
> > > > lets say Qemu is updated to report version 3 which will break older guest images
> > > > that understood version 2 - this is despite the same Qemu being capable of
> > > > serving those guests.
> > > 
> > > My understanding is that qemu should stick to version 2 since it works fine.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > Yes breaking all guests does not sound like a good plan.
> > Which is unfortunate generally.
> > 
> > So thinking about all this, quite early in the setup process we
> > have:
> > 
> >          /* Figure out what features the device supports. */
> >          device_features = dev->config->get_features(dev);
> > 
> > 
> > isn't this sufficient? this will flush out
> > all writes and device can defer responding to reads
> > until reset is complete.
> 
> 
> This works unless we mandate the deferring in the spec. And the racy part is
> here:
> 
>         /* We always start by resetting the device, in case a previous
>          * driver messed it up.  This also tests that code path a little. */
>         dev->config->reset(dev);
> 
>         /* Acknowledge that we've seen the device. */
>         virtio_add_status(dev, VIRTIO_CONFIG_S_ACKNOWLEDGE);
> 
> If we don't read, the reset can be finished after add_status()?
> 
> Thanks

It can, but VIRTIO_CONFIG_S_ACKNOWLEDGE is mostly for hypervisor's
benefit.  It's a basic system to debug the binding process.  If device
cares it can hold the write in a buffer while it's being reset.  If it
does not it can just drop this bit, nothing that's too bad will happen.

> 
> > 
> > I know it's not elegant since there are a bunch of writes like
> > acknowledge and driver, but hey.
> > 
> > How about we just add a non-normative section explaining that trick?
> > 
> > 
> > > > - vatsa
> > > > 
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