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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <quic_svaddagi@quicinc.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, tsoni@quicinc.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] virtio-mmio: Specify wait needed in driver during reset
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 10:45:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210831103906-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210831135753.GG9207@quicinc.com>

On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 07:27:53PM +0530, Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
> Reset of a virtio-mmio device is initiated by writing 0 to its Status register.
> In case of some devices, the reset operation itself may not be completed
> by the time write instruction completes and hence such devices would require
> drivers to wait on reset operation to complete before they proceed with
> remaining steps of initialization.
> 
> Update the specification to indicate which devices would need driver to block on
> reset completion.
> 
> Suggested-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> Signed-off-by: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <quic_svaddagi@quicinc.com>


I am still of two minds on whether we
want such a drastic change as a version update for such a
minor thing. Yes, we did it for PCI but then PCI did
not break backwards compat like mmio did.

Let's see what needs to happen to make existing drivers work
1- reset starts the reset process
2- following writes into status are buffered by the device
  until reset completes
3- read from features completes after reset is complete

This does not sound like a difficult set of requirements
to implement. Maybe just write up 1-3 above in the spec
and be done with it?



> ---
> v3->v2:
> - Introduce a new status bit, DEVICE_RESET_IN_PROGRESS
> - Limit driver need to poll for reset completion only for MMIO devices having
>   Version = 0x3 
> 
> Previous version can be found at:
> 
> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/virtio-dev/202108/msg00065.html
> 
>  content.tex | 23 +++++++++++++++++++----
>  1 file changed, 19 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> index 7cec1c3..e10f7d3 100644
> --- a/content.tex
> +++ b/content.tex
> @@ -49,6 +49,8 @@ \section{\field{Device Status} Field}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Dev
>  
>  \item[DEVICE_NEEDS_RESET (64)] Indicates that the device has experienced
>    an error from which it can't recover.
> +
> +\item[DEVICE_RESET_IN_PROGRESS (256)] Indicates that the device reset is in progress.
>  \end{description}
>  
>  The \field{device status} field starts out as 0, and is reinitialized to 0 by
> @@ -1730,9 +1732,9 @@ \subsection{MMIO Device Register Layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Vi
>    } 
>    \hline
>    \mmioreg{Version}{Device version number}{0x004}{R}{%
> -    0x2.
> +    0x3.
>      \begin{note}
> -      Legacy devices (see \ref{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over MMIO / Legacy interface}~\nameref{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over MMIO / Legacy interface}) used 0x1.
> +      Legacy devices (see \ref{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over MMIO / Legacy interface}~\nameref{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over MMIO / Legacy interface}) used 0x1. Devices that do not require drivers to poll for reset completion can use 0x2. See \ref{devicenormative:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over MMIO / MMIO Device Register Layout} for more details.
>      \end{note}
>    }
>    \hline 
> @@ -1916,7 +1918,15 @@ \subsection{MMIO Device Register Layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Vi
>  
>  The device MUST return 0x74726976 in \field{MagicValue}.
>  
> -The device MUST return value 0x2 in \field{Version}.
> +The device MUST return either value 0x3 or 0x2 in \field{Version} based on its reset behavior. Drivers trigger reset
> +of a device by writing 0 to \field{Status}. The reset operation itself may or may not be completed by the time write
> +operation is complete. Devices whose reset operation completes synchronously with the write operation are allowed to
> +return value of 0x2 for \field{Version}. Other devices, whose reset operation can be incomplete by the time write
> +operation completes MUST return value 0x3 as an indication for drivers to poll for reset completion. Such devices
> +MUST indicate progress of reset operation in \field{Status}, with value of DEVICE_RESET_IN_PROGRESS indicating reset
> +operation is still in progress, a value of 0x0 indicating reset operation is complete and a value of
> +DEVICE_NEEDS_RESET indicating device has experienced an error and that reset operation could not be completed
> +successfully.
>  
>  The device MUST present each event by setting the corresponding bit in \field{InterruptStatus} from the
>  moment it takes place, until the driver acknowledges the interrupt
> @@ -1947,9 +1957,14 @@ \subsection{MMIO Device Register Layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Vi
>  The driver MUST ignore a device with \field{MagicValue} which is not 0x74726976,
>  although it MAY report an error.
>  
> -The driver MUST ignore a device with \field{Version} which is not 0x2,
> +The driver MUST ignore a device with \field{Version} which is neither 0x2 nor 0x3,
>  although it MAY report an error.
>  
> +When \field{Version} is 0x3, the driver, after initiating reset of device by
> +writing 0 to \field{Status}, MUST wait for device reset operation to complete.
> +Further, when \field{Version} is 0x3, the driver MUST not access any register other than
> +reading \field{Status} while device reset is in progress.
> +
>  The driver MUST ignore a device with \field{DeviceID} 0x0,
>  but MUST NOT report any error.
>  
> 
> 
> -- 
> Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is submitting the attached "feedback" as a
> non-member to the virtio-dev mailing list for consideration and inclusion.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-31 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-31 13:57 [PATCH v3] virtio-mmio: Specify wait needed in driver during reset Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2021-08-31 14:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2021-08-31 15:56   ` [virtio-dev] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2021-09-01  1:19     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-01 13:31       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2021-09-02  7:27         ` Jason Wang
     [not found] ` <20211125162349-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
     [not found]   ` <CACGkMEun-obsMTLAGCCtKpqNxWHBKk_QC_6WywsVsFb7mfW9qw@mail.gmail.com>
2021-11-26  8:35     ` Cornelia Huck
2021-11-29  2:40       ` Jason Wang

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