Discussion of the implementations of VIRTIO specification
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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: "cohuck@redhat.com" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>, Oren Duer <oren@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Add device reset timeout field
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 06:44:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211008063303-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB5481990F6F33697BB2F9B6D4DCB19@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Oct 07, 2021 at 03:42:24AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> > There's no reason for a driver to choose any value - it has nothing else to do.
> >
> At least for the devices that we are seeing, driver choosing a default value of 2 to 3 minutes is good enough and of course useful.

Well I don't get this of course yet. I guess it's useful for some
workloads, but VM being blocked for 2 minutes breaks lots of workloads.
Guests with 30 devices do exist, we are talking about an hour to start
these guest.

I wonder whether we should instead just provide some guidance on how long
is it ok for reset to take? Say if we want to address kata, <100ms boot
time, I guess we can recomment not more than 10ms? Anything
more would trigger at least a warning.

-- 
MST


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-08 10:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-06 14:10 [PATCH v2] Add device reset timeout field Parav Pandit
2021-10-06 15:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-06 16:11   ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-06 20:53     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-07  3:42       ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-07 16:10         ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2021-10-07 17:58           ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-08 10:00             ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2021-10-08 10:19               ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-08 10:12             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-08 10:51               ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-08 11:18                 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-08 12:55                   ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-08 10:44         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2021-10-08 10:59           ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-08 11:21             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-08 11:45               ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-08 11:47               ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2021-10-08 12:12                 ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-08 12:57                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-08 13:23                     ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-08 23:09                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-11 14:29                         ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-11 14:59                           ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2021-10-11 15:44                             ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-11 16:00                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12  8:51                                 ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-12  9:01                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12  9:12                                     ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-14 17:35                                       ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-14 22:28                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-15  4:36                                           ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-15  5:15                                             ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2021-10-15  5:20                                               ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-15  6:40                                                 ` Jason Wang
2021-10-15  6:42                                                 ` Jason Wang
2021-10-15  6:48                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-15  7:02                                                     ` Jason Wang
2021-10-15  8:21                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-15  8:42                                                         ` Jason Wang
2021-10-22  7:20                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-25  5:41                                                             ` Jason Wang
2021-10-25  6:11                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-26  4:03                                                                 ` Jason Wang
2021-10-27  8:04                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-27  8:26                                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-28  4:01                                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-28  5:50                                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-28  6:06                                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-15  6:51                                             ` Cornelia Huck
2021-10-15  8:09                                               ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-15  9:25                                                 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2021-10-22  6:29                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-11 16:22                               ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2021-10-12 10:35                                 ` Parav Pandit

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