Discussion of the implementations of VIRTIO specification
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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>, Oren Duer <oren@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v2] Add device reset timeout field
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2021 01:50:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211028014301-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB5481CEC3BB8BB3EC0B0A368BDC869@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 04:01:52AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> >   how it looks like, whether there is a timeout is
> >   a separate question.
> 
> > E.g. a read counter sounds
> >   more generic, if device is stuck it can just stop
> >   incrementing it.
> This is not scalable solution for hundreds of devices and it breaks the layering too.
> A virtio layer itself is not in up_state to perform counter update.
> A non virtio layer is expected to implement this counter. This is not right.

Donnu what does the above mean. My point is simple: there's little
difference between device being stuck during firmware boot and
device being stuck right after boot.

> But this timer is not useful for publishing device readiness. Having device readiness register is enough to indicate that.
> For health monitoring such counting register is useful. But its out of scope to address this problem.
> So will skip this.
> 
> I will explore the device readiness register and update the proposal.
> Thanks.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-28  5:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-06 14:10 [PATCH v2] Add device reset timeout field Parav Pandit
2021-10-06 15:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-06 16:11   ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-06 20:53     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-07  3:42       ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-07 16:10         ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2021-10-07 17:58           ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-08 10:00             ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2021-10-08 10:19               ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-08 10:12             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-08 10:51               ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-08 11:18                 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-08 12:55                   ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-08 10:44         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-08 10:59           ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-08 11:21             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-08 11:45               ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-08 11:47               ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2021-10-08 12:12                 ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-08 12:57                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-08 13:23                     ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-08 23:09                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-11 14:29                         ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-11 14:59                           ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2021-10-11 15:44                             ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-11 16:00                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12  8:51                                 ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-12  9:01                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12  9:12                                     ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-14 17:35                                       ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-14 22:28                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-15  4:36                                           ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-15  5:15                                             ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2021-10-15  5:20                                               ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-15  6:40                                                 ` Jason Wang
2021-10-15  6:42                                                 ` Jason Wang
2021-10-15  6:48                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-15  7:02                                                     ` Jason Wang
2021-10-15  8:21                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-15  8:42                                                         ` Jason Wang
2021-10-22  7:20                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-25  5:41                                                             ` Jason Wang
2021-10-25  6:11                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-26  4:03                                                                 ` Jason Wang
2021-10-27  8:04                                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-27  8:26                                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-28  4:01                                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-28  5:50                                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2021-10-28  6:06                                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-15  6:51                                             ` Cornelia Huck
2021-10-15  8:09                                               ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-15  9:25                                                 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2021-10-22  6:29                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2021-10-11 16:22                               ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2021-10-12 10:35                                 ` Parav Pandit

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