From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
Virtio-Dev <virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
eperezma <eperezma@redhat.com>, Cindy Lu <lulu@redhat.com>
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH V2 0/2] virito-pci: PASID support
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 05:40:17 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220113053923-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YeAAxCYT3I7Z/SmW@stefanha-x1.localdomain>
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 10:36:52AM +0000, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 09:28:19AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 6:44 PM Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 01:57:53PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > Hi All:
> > > >
> > > > This series tries to add PASID support for virtio-pci to allow the
> > > > virtqueue to use PASID TLP prefix for PCI transactions. This will be
> > > > useful for future work like, queue assignment, virtqueue
> > > > virtualization and presenting multiple vDPA devices with a single PCI
> > > > device.
> > > >
> > > > Since we're short of the space for the PCI capabilities, the PCI
> > > > extended capability for virtio structure is introduced that allows the
> > > > PASID configuration structure to use.
> > > >
> > > > A prototype is implemented with emulated virtio-pci device in [1]. A
> > > > test driver is implemented in [2].
> > > >
> > > > Please review.
> > >
> > > I don't know the security model for PASIDs. My guess is that PASIDs can
> > > be bruteforced so we must trust the driver (it can assign PASIDs to
> > > virtqueue groups) and we must prevent untrusted applications from
> > > setting PASIDs on virtqueues. Is that correct?
> >
> > Yes, and the kernel can choose to hide PASID even for the trusted
> > application by using token or other intermediate layers.
>
> It would be good to describe the security model from a virtio-pci
> perspective so driver implementors don't accidentally expose trusted
> interfaces to untrusted applications. It's obvious to someone who
> already understands and has thought through all of this, but not obvious
> to someone who is implementing a driver for the first time or someone
> who is modifying the VIRTIO specification and doesn't know/care about
> PASIDs.
>
> Stefan
Can't hurt to have a security considerations chapter.
We should talk there about ACCESS_PLATFORM which has security implications
too.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-13 10:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-12 5:57 [virtio-dev] [PATCH V2 0/2] virito-pci: PASID support Jason Wang
2022-01-12 5:57 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH V2 1/2] virtio-pci: introduce virtio structure PCI Extended Capability Jason Wang
2022-01-12 10:10 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-13 0:55 ` Jason Wang
2022-01-13 10:19 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-14 3:23 ` Jason Wang
2022-01-17 10:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-12 5:57 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH V2 2/2] virtio-pci: add PASID configuration extended capability Jason Wang
2022-01-12 10:41 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-13 1:24 ` Jason Wang
2022-01-13 10:32 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-13 10:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-13 14:53 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-13 15:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-14 3:15 ` Jason Wang
2022-01-14 10:38 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2022-01-17 5:58 ` Jason Wang
2022-01-14 9:43 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2022-01-17 5:57 ` Jason Wang
2022-01-19 18:01 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2022-01-19 23:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-24 15:26 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2022-01-24 22:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-12 10:44 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH V2 0/2] virito-pci: PASID support Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-13 1:28 ` Jason Wang
2022-01-13 10:36 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-01-13 10:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2022-01-14 2:53 ` Jason Wang
2022-01-13 15:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-14 2:55 ` Jason Wang
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