Discussion of the implementations of VIRTIO specification
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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
Cc: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org, cohuck@redhat.com,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, jasowang@redhat.com,
	parav@nvidia.com, shahafs@nvidia.com, oren@nvidia.com,
	stefanha@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] Add virtio Admin Virtqueue
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 10:03:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220126095925-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <292327c4-1916-4237-a96c-13ed013fbef6@nvidia.com>

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 04:54:22PM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> 
> On 1/26/2022 4:40 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 11:39:15AM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> > > +Regardless of device offering VIRTIO_F_IN_ORDER, admin queue command buffers
> > > +are used by the device in out of order manner.
> > Instead of special-casing AQ I'd like to see a generic capability
> > addressing this need. For example, TX for virtio net might benefit from
> > this too. And I'd like to mention, again, VIRTIO_F_PARTIAL_ORDER
> > proposal as one, arguably cleaner and more generic way to address this.
> 
> We already suggested a special capability for IN_ORDER for AQ and you asked
> to drop it. We drop it and agreed that AQ will be OOO.
> 
> Why are we going back here ?

That's a misunderstanding. Currently all VQs of a device follow same
ordering. So I suggested making AQ just follow ordering of rest of VQs
of the device.

> You also mentioned that this patch set is already big enough so why solve
> all the problems we can think of in this one ?

Right. So just leave the ordering be for now, driver can just skip
IN_ORDER and use AQ without it if it wants to.

> Why mixing
> VIRTIO_F_PARTIAL_ORDER here ?

PARTIAL_ORDER has its own patch, no need to mix it in. Reusing that
seems cleaner than special-casing here though, we do try to have
reusable modules, otherwise things just get out of hand quickly.

> > And if that's not adequate I'd like to address that as part of the
> > PARTIAL_ORDER proposal, this kind of per-queue in order was definitely
> > on the radar as it was formulated.
> > 


  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-26 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-24  9:39 [PATCH v2 0/4] VIRTIO: Provision maximum MSI-X vectors for a VF Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-24  9:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] Add virtio Admin Virtqueue Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-26 14:40   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-26 14:54     ` [virtio-comment] " Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-26 15:03       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2022-01-26 15:16         ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-27  3:56         ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-27  3:55     ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-27  3:56       ` Jason Wang
2022-01-28 12:14   ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-28 12:47     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-28 15:49       ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-28 15:52         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-28 16:14           ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-28 16:16             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-28 16:23               ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-29  3:53           ` Jason Wang
2022-01-30  9:13             ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-30  9:40               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-30  9:56                 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-30 14:41                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-30 15:12                     ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-30 15:30                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-30 18:23                         ` [virtio-comment] " Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-30 21:15                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-31  9:16                         ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-31 13:40                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-31 14:26                             ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-31 14:52                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-31 15:48                                 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-31 16:00                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-31 16:12                                 ` Halil Pasic
2022-01-31 17:10                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-31 17:22                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-01 11:53                                     ` [virtio-dev] " Halil Pasic
2022-02-01 17:01                                       ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-01 18:34                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-31 15:47                           ` Halil Pasic
2022-01-31 16:01                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-31 16:12                             ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-09  2:27                         ` Jason Wang
2022-02-09  7:46                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-30  9:39             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-30 11:21     ` [virtio-comment] " Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-30 14:37       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-24  9:39 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 2/4] virtio-blk: add support for VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-24  9:39 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] virtio-net: " Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-24  9:39 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] Add support for MSI-X vectors configuration for PCI VFs Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-25 11:53   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-26 13:03     ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-26 14:08       ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-27  3:40         ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-27 12:39           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-27 14:16             ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-27 17:28               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-27  3:36   ` Jason Wang
2022-01-27  5:22     ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-28  3:23       ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2022-01-28  3:30         ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-28  3:35           ` Jason Wang
2022-01-28  3:45             ` Parav Pandit

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