From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>,
virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, jasowang@redhat.com,
parav@nvidia.com, shahafs@nvidia.com, oren@nvidia.com,
stefanha@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] Add virtio Admin Virtqueue
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 10:52:40 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220128105012-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tudnzwq9.fsf@redhat.com>
On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 04:49:34PM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 28 2022, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 01:14:14PM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jan 24 2022, Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com> wrote:
> >> > +\section{Admin Virtqueues}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Admin Virtqueues}
> >> > +
> >> > +Admin virtqueue is used to send administrative commands to manipulate
> >> > +various features of the device and/or to manipulate various features,
> >> > +if possible, of another device within the same group (e.g. PCI VFs of
> >> > +a parent PCI PF device are grouped together. These devices can be
> >> > +optionally managed by its parent PCI PF using its admin virtqueue.).
> >> > +
> >> > +Use of Admin virtqueue is negotiated by the VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ
> >> > +feature bit.
> >> > +
> >> > +Admin virtqueue index may vary among different device types.
> >>
> >> So, my understanding is:
> >> - any device type may or may not support the admin vq
> >> - if the device type wants to be able to accommodate the admin vq, it
> >> also needs to specify where it shows up when the feature is negotiated
> >>
> >> Do we expect that eventually all device types will need to support the
> >> admin vq (if some use case comes along that will require all devices to
> >> participate, for example?)
> >
> > I suspect yes. And that's one of the reasons why I'd rather we had a
> > device independent way to locate the admin queue. There are less
> > transports than device types.
>
> So, do we want to bite the bullet now and simply say that every device
> type has the admin vq as the last vq if the feature is negotiated?
> Should be straightforward for the device types that have a fixed number
> of vqs, and doable for those that have a variable amount (two device
> types are covered by this series anyway.) I think we need to put it with
> the device types, as otherwise the numbering of virtqueues could change
> in unpredictable ways with the admin vq off/on.
Well that only works once. The next thing we'll need we won't be able to
make the last one ;) So I am inclined to add a per-transport field that
gives the admin queue number. Another advantage to this approach is that
we can make sure admin queue gets a page by itself (which can be good if
we want to allow access to regular vqs but not to the admin queue to
guest) even if regular vqs share a page. Will help devices use less
memory space.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-28 15:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-24 9:39 [PATCH v2 0/4] VIRTIO: Provision maximum MSI-X vectors for a VF Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-24 9:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] Add virtio Admin Virtqueue Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-26 14:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-26 14:54 ` [virtio-comment] " Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-26 15:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-26 15:16 ` [virtio-comment] " Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-27 3:56 ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-27 3:55 ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-27 3:56 ` Jason Wang
2022-01-28 12:14 ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-28 12:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-28 15:49 ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-28 15:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2022-01-28 16:14 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-28 16:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-28 16:23 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-29 3:53 ` Jason Wang
2022-01-30 9:13 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-30 9:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-30 9:56 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-30 14:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-30 15:12 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-30 15:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-30 18:23 ` [virtio-comment] " Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-30 21:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-31 9:16 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-31 13:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-31 14:26 ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-31 14:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-31 15:48 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-31 16:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-31 16:12 ` Halil Pasic
2022-01-31 17:10 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-31 17:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-01 11:53 ` [virtio-dev] " Halil Pasic
2022-02-01 17:01 ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-01 18:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-31 15:47 ` Halil Pasic
2022-01-31 16:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-31 16:12 ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-09 2:27 ` Jason Wang
2022-02-09 7:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-30 9:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-30 11:21 ` [virtio-comment] " Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-30 14:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-24 9:39 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 2/4] virtio-blk: add support for VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-24 9:39 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] virtio-net: " Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-24 9:39 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] Add support for MSI-X vectors configuration for PCI VFs Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-25 11:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-26 13:03 ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-26 14:08 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-27 3:40 ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-27 12:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-27 14:16 ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-27 17:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-27 3:36 ` Jason Wang
2022-01-27 5:22 ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-28 3:23 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2022-01-28 3:30 ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-28 3:35 ` Jason Wang
2022-01-28 3:45 ` Parav Pandit
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