Discussion of the implementations of VIRTIO specification
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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, jasowang@redhat.com,
	parav@nvidia.com, shahafs@nvidia.com, oren@nvidia.com,
	stefanha@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] Add virtio Admin Virtqueue
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 09:37:10 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220130093622-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a1279b8b-41db-d893-7425-24524c853613@nvidia.com>

On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 01:21:41PM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> 
> On 1/28/2022 2:14 PM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 24 2022, Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > In one of the many use cases a user wants to manipulate features and
> > > configuration of the virtio devices regardless of the device type
> > > (net/block/console). Some of this configuration is generic enough. i.e
> > > Number of MSI-X vectors of a virtio PCI VF device. There is a need to do
> > > such features query and manipulation by its parent PCI PF.
> > > 
> > > Currently virtio specification defines control virtqueue to manipulate
> > > features and configuration of the device it operates on. However,
> > > control virtqueue commands are device type specific, which makes it very
> > > difficult to extend for device agnostic commands.
> > > 
> > > To support this requirement in elegant way, this patch introduces a new
> > > admin virtqueue. Admin virtqueue will use the same command format for all
> > > types of virtio devices.
> > > 
> > > Manipulate features via admin virtqueue is asynchronous, scalable, easy
> > > to extend and doesn't require additional and expensive on-die resources
> > > to be allocated for every new feature that will be added in the future.
> > > 
> > > Subsequent patches make use of this admin virtqueue.
> > > 
> > > Reviewed-by: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
> > > ---
> > >   admin-virtq.tex | 89 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >   content.tex     |  9 +++--
> > >   2 files changed, 96 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > >   create mode 100644 admin-virtq.tex
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/admin-virtq.tex b/admin-virtq.tex
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 0000000..1a41c22
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/admin-virtq.tex
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,89 @@
> > > +\section{Admin Virtqueues}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Admin Virtqueues}
> > > +
> > > +Admin virtqueue is used to send administrative commands to manipulate
> > > +various features of the device and/or to manipulate various features,
> > > +if possible, of another device within the same group (e.g. PCI VFs of
> > > +a parent PCI PF device are grouped together. These devices can be
> > > +optionally managed by its parent PCI PF using its admin virtqueue.).
> > > +
> > > +Use of Admin virtqueue is negotiated by the VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ
> > > +feature bit.
> > > +
> > > +Admin virtqueue index may vary among different device types.
> > So, my understanding is:
> > - any device type may or may not support the admin vq
> > - if the device type wants to be able to accommodate the admin vq, it
> >    also needs to specify where it shows up when the feature is negotiated
> > 
> > Do we expect that eventually all device types will need to support the
> > admin vq (if some use case comes along that will require all devices to
> > participate, for example?)
> > 
> > Anyway, I'd reword the two sentences above:
> > 
> > "An admin virtqueue exists for a certain device if VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ is
> > negotiated. The index of the admin virtqueue is device type specific."
> 
> Ok. I'll use this in V3, unless we'll find some other mechanism that is not
> so clear now.

I suggest a transport specific register for the admin queue index.
What do others think?

> > 
> > (...)
> > 
> > > @@ -6847,6 +6849,9 @@ \chapter{Reserved Feature Bits}\label{sec:Reserved Feature Bits}
> > >     that the driver can reset a queue individually.
> > >     See \ref{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Virtqueues / Virtqueue Reset}.
> > > +  \item[VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ (41)] This feature indicates that
> > > +  the device supports administration virtqueue negotiation.
> > Maybe
> > 
> > "This feature indicates that an administration virtqueue is supported." ?
> 
> Ok.
> 
> 
> > 
> > > +
> > >   \end{description}
> > >   \drivernormative{\section}{Reserved Feature Bits}{Reserved Feature Bits}


  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-30 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-24  9:39 [PATCH v2 0/4] VIRTIO: Provision maximum MSI-X vectors for a VF Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-24  9:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] Add virtio Admin Virtqueue Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-26 14:40   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-26 14:54     ` [virtio-comment] " Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-26 15:03       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-26 15:16         ` [virtio-comment] " Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-27  3:56         ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-27  3:55     ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-27  3:56       ` Jason Wang
2022-01-28 12:14   ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-28 12:47     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-28 15:49       ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-28 15:52         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-28 16:14           ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-28 16:16             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-28 16:23               ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-29  3:53           ` Jason Wang
2022-01-30  9:13             ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-30  9:40               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-30  9:56                 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-30 14:41                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-30 15:12                     ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-30 15:30                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-30 18:23                         ` [virtio-comment] " Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-30 21:15                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-31  9:16                         ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-31 13:40                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-31 14:26                             ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-31 14:52                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-31 15:48                                 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-31 16:00                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-31 16:12                                 ` Halil Pasic
2022-01-31 17:10                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-01-31 17:22                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-01 11:53                                     ` [virtio-dev] " Halil Pasic
2022-02-01 17:01                                       ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-01 18:34                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-31 15:47                           ` Halil Pasic
2022-01-31 16:01                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-31 16:12                             ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-09  2:27                         ` Jason Wang
2022-02-09  7:46                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-30  9:39             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-30 11:21     ` [virtio-comment] " Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-30 14:37       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2022-01-24  9:39 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v2 2/4] virtio-blk: add support for VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-24  9:39 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] virtio-net: " Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-24  9:39 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] Add support for MSI-X vectors configuration for PCI VFs Max Gurtovoy
2022-01-25 11:53   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-26 13:03     ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-26 14:08       ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-27  3:40         ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-27 12:39           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-27 14:16             ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-27 17:28               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-01-27  3:36   ` Jason Wang
2022-01-27  5:22     ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-28  3:23       ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2022-01-28  3:30         ` Parav Pandit
2022-01-28  3:35           ` Jason Wang
2022-01-28  3:45             ` Parav Pandit

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