Discussion of the implementations of VIRTIO specification
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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
Cc: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org, cohuck@redhat.com,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, jasowang@redhat.com,
	parav@nvidia.com, shahafs@nvidia.com, oren@nvidia.com,
	stefanha@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] Add virtio Admin virtqueue
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 11:18:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220207111649-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d9c93540-4838-c18e-12c6-9ef4dc0028de@nvidia.com>

On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 04:58:19PM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> 
> On 2/7/2022 12:39 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 03, 2022 at 09:57:13AM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > +struct virtio_admin_cmd {
> > > +        /* Device-readable part */
> > > +        u16 command;
> > > +        u8 command_specific_data[];
> > > +
> > > +        /* Device-writable part */
> > > +        u8 status;
> > > +        u8 command_specific_error;
> > > +        u8 command_specific_result[];
> > > +};
> > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > ok this abstraction is an improvement, thanks!
> > 
> > What I'd like to see is moving a bit more format to this generic structure.
> > 
> >  From what I could gather, some commands affect a group as a whole, and
> > some commands just a single member of the group. We could have a
> > "destination" field for that, and a special "all of the group"
> > destination for commands affecting the whole group.
> > 
> > 
> > Next, trying to think about scalable iov extensions. So we
> > will have groups of VFs and then SFs as the next level.
> > How does one differentiate between the two?
> > Maybe reserve a field for "destination type"?
> 
> For now we have only a PCI group that composed of VFs and the PF.
> 
> What you suggest, IMO is a definition of a generic virtio group/subsystem
> that I've mentioned in the discussion of V1.
> 
> Once we have virtio group - it should have a group id and them the admin
> command can have a field calld group_id for commands that are targeted to
> the whole group.
> 
> Some commands are referring to a specific device in the group so only a
> vdev_id is needed.
> 
> Some commands are even targeted to the same device to query some info (we
> have examples in this series for that), so in this case there is no need for
> vdev_id nor group_id.
> 
> So I'm sure sure we can improve common virtio_admin_cmd structure to have
> these attributes since they are not mandatory because of the reasons I've
> mentioned.

I'm not sure I understand 100%, but try to address in the next
revision and we'll discuss.

> > 
> > The point of all this is to allow making sense of commands and
> > e.g. virtualizing them for nested virt without necessarily
> > knowing all of the detail about the specific command.
> I don't understand this, sorry.

Basically try to move stuff into generic format so it's possible
to understand things without knowing detail of the command.

-- 
MST


  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-07 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-03  7:57 [PATCH v3 0/4] VIRTIO: Provision maximum MSI-X vectors for a VF Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-03  7:57 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] Add virtio Admin virtqueue Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-03 13:09   ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-07 10:14     ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-07 10:28       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-07 11:51         ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-07 14:34           ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-07 15:08             ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-07 16:19               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-07 10:39   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-07 14:58     ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-07 16:18       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2022-02-08  0:41         ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-08  6:45           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08  8:34             ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-08 13:08               ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-08 13:20                 ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 14:04               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08  6:25     ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08  6:42       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08  7:04         ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 13:19           ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-08 13:32             ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 13:58               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 14:59                 ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-08 15:11                   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 15:18                     ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-08 15:28                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 15:33                       ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 15:36                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 15:26                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 15:32                     ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-08 15:35                     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 15:37                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 15:48                         ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 21:02                           ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 15:06                 ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 15:39                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 18:52                     ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 21:00                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-03  7:57 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] Add miscellaneous configuration structure for PCI Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-03  7:57 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] Add device management facility Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-03  7:57 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 4/4] Add support for MSI-X vectors configuration for PCI VFs Max Gurtovoy

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