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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"jasowang@redhat.com" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>, Oren Duer <oren@nvidia.com>,
	"stefanha@redhat.com" <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] Add virtio Admin virtqueue
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 16:00:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220208155906-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB5481B7DB7CD220C512397B4CDC2D9@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 06:52:09PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> 
> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 9:10 PM
> > 
> > On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 03:06:16PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 7:29 PM
> > > >
> > > > > Do we have a concrete example of a command that can be targeted
> > > > > for same
> > > > device and a target device, which requires differentiating their
> > > > destination? If so, lets discuss and then it make sense to add for the well-
> > defined use case.
> > > >
> > > > So e.g. things like controlling NIC's MAC can reasonably be part of
> > > > the same device.
> > > A mac address of NIC can be programmed via the existing control VQ for the
> > self.
> > 
> > Not if it's disabled for the guest.
> > 
> Its unrelated.
> The idea was to issue same command in same way by two devices = primary and secondary.
> And in case of primary, it will refer to secondary device.
> And in second case secondary tells to self.
> 
> So if its disabled by guest, it doesn't matter how guest transports it, either via CVQ or AQ.
> Its disabled.
> Why to re-invent command that exists on CVQ to AQ?

I can go into it but it's beside the point.  I was just trying to help
you come up with use-cases.  Don't like it - come up with your own ones.


> > OK, and Cornelia also said she thinks 64 is necessary.
> > 
> > > So if we really want to cover variety of cases like [1] and some more
> > > complex nested cases, we better define, Device identifier as below,
> > > struct device_identifier {
> > > 	u8 id_length;
> > > 	u8 id[];	/* variable length field
> > > };
> > > For implicitly grouped VFs of a PF, id can be 2 bytes.
> > > For more advance cases it can be a structure consist one or more
> > combination of (a) host id or controller id (b) PF BDF, (c) sf id (d) PASID and
> > more.
> > >
> > > [1]
> > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/devlink/devlink-po
> > > rt.rst
> > 
> > I'm fine with this too.
> >
> Since we aim for future proofing and flexibility, variable length id is better than constant u64. It covers the u64 case anyway.
>  
> > --
> > MST


  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-08 21:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-03  7:57 [PATCH v3 0/4] VIRTIO: Provision maximum MSI-X vectors for a VF Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-03  7:57 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] Add virtio Admin virtqueue Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-03 13:09   ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-07 10:14     ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-07 10:28       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-07 11:51         ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-07 14:34           ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-07 15:08             ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-07 16:19               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-07 10:39   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-07 14:58     ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-07 16:18       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08  0:41         ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-08  6:45           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08  8:34             ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-08 13:08               ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-08 13:20                 ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 14:04               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08  6:25     ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08  6:42       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08  7:04         ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 13:19           ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-08 13:32             ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 13:58               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 14:59                 ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-08 15:11                   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 15:18                     ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-08 15:28                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 15:33                       ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 15:36                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 15:26                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 15:32                     ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-02-08 15:35                     ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 15:37                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 15:48                         ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 21:02                           ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 15:06                 ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 15:39                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-08 18:52                     ` Parav Pandit
2022-02-08 21:00                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2022-02-03  7:57 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] Add miscellaneous configuration structure for PCI Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-03  7:57 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] Add device management facility Max Gurtovoy
2022-02-03  7:57 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 4/4] Add support for MSI-X vectors configuration for PCI VFs Max Gurtovoy

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