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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: queue_reset register polarity to improve
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2022 13:32:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220425125819-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB54816E6AA01851746C851FDBDCF89@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 02:56:39PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> 
> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 9:43 AM
> > 
> > Question is what exactly is the advantage of making changes now.  If we are
> > trying to save bits then maybe an alternative that uses queue enable instead
> > should be worked on.
> > 
> Bit saving by merging to queue_enable is yet another gain.
> But it may be too late now as you say.
> If we adopt to the alternative definition we discussed, new queue_reset bit can follow queue_enable without additional complexity.
> > 
> > > Spec is not released, right?
> > 
> > Kind of yes. The vote to release for a review is technically ongoing, but
> > practically 6 out of 8 voting members already cast a ballot and voted yes.
> > The best way forward if you think the issue is important enough to delay the
> > release is probably working on a proposal for a change meanwhile and
> > submitting it as part of the 30 day public review. Since the change seems
> > material this would imply another 15 day public review period, delaying the
> > release by about a month in total.
> > 
> > As part of that I would suggest explaining the motivation for the change beyond
> > the simple "seems a bit cleaner".
> > 
> To me it is beyond than being cleaner.
> A state machine and driver-device interface where same register values coney different things doesn't look right.
> 
> If virtio spec release process has concept of errata/ratification, I propose a minor change that doesn't affect the current release.
> 
> a. Let feature bit as is
> b. On queue_reset=1, it stays 1, until queue is busy in reset
> c. When queue reset completed, it goes to zero along with queue_enabled bit.
>
> I can draft the "Fixes" text for this in existing proposed spec. This way we get right fix without much disruption.
> Would that be ok?

There's no special errata process as far as I'm aware.
Feel free to peruse
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process-2017-05-26/


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MST


  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-25 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-24  0:49 [virtio-dev] queue_reset register polarity to improve Parav Pandit
2022-04-24  6:46 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-04-24  7:01   ` Jason Wang
2022-04-25 13:43     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-04-25 10:06   ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2022-04-25 13:00     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-04-25 11:42   ` Cornelia Huck
2022-04-25 12:01     ` Parav Pandit
2022-04-25 13:42       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-04-25 14:56         ` Parav Pandit
2022-04-25 17:32           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2022-04-24  7:28 ` [virtio-dev] " Xuan Zhuo
2022-04-26  8:48   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-04-26  8:59     ` Xuan Zhuo
2022-04-26  9:52     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-04-26  9:55       ` Xuan Zhuo
2022-04-26 11:07         ` Parav Pandit
2022-04-26 12:00   ` Parav Pandit
2022-04-27  8:28     ` Xuan Zhuo
2022-04-27 20:29       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-04-27 23:52         ` Parav Pandit
2022-04-26 14:26   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-04-27  8:50     ` Xuan Zhuo

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