From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, jasowang@redhat.com,
cohuck@redhat.com, sgarzare@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
nrupal.jani@intel.com, Piotr.Uminski@intel.com,
hang.yuan@intel.com, virtio@lists.oasis-open.org,
Zhu Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>,
oren@nvidia.com, parav@nvidia.com, shahafs@nvidia.com,
aadam@redhat.com, eperezma@redhat.com,
Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio] [PATCH RFC v7 6/8] ccw: disallow ADMIN_VQ
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2022 11:50:55 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220816115006-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220816114216-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 11:48:51AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 04:48:11PM +0200, Halil Pasic wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 13:19:20 -0400
> > "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > > content.tex | 10 ++++++++++
> > > 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> > > index 76b5a28..53be680 100644
> > > --- a/content.tex
> > > +++ b/content.tex
> > > @@ -2668,6 +2668,16 @@ \subsubsection{Handling Device Features}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Vi
> > > uses the CCW_CMD_WRITE_FEAT command, denoting a \field{features}/\field{index}
> > > combination.
> > >
> > > +\devicenormative{\paragraph}{Handling Device Features}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio over channel I/O / Device Initialization / Handling Device Features}
> > > +
> > > +Device MUST NOT set bit VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ (bit 41) in
> > > +DeviceFeatures.
> > > +
> > > +\drivernormative{\paragraph}{Handling Device Features}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio over channel I/O / Device Initialization / Handling Device Features}
> > > +
> > > +Driver MUST NOT set bit VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ (bit 41) in
> > > +DriverFeatures even if offered by the device.
> > > +
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand the intention here. I believe what we try to
> > accomplish here is the following. The Channel I/O transport *currently*
> > does not support the VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ feature. It is not like we want
> > to state that the feature VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ won't ever be supported by
> > the Channel I/O transport. Or am I wrong?
> >
> > If my assumptions are right, then the old incarnation of the spec could
> > contradict the new incarnation of the spec. Thus I would prefer something
> > like.
>
> Relaxing requirenents is always okay.
>
> >
> > """
> > Currently the following features are not supported by the Channel I/O
> > transport:
> > * VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ
> > """
>
> what I want to prevent is driver saying "oh device will not set ADMIN_VQ
> so it's ok to acknowledge it if offered, it is never offered even
> though it does not suport it".
> because then it becomes impossible to know when actually a new driver
> appears with actual support.
>
> So, Maybe just add text
>
> Note: future versions of this specification will allow setting ADMIN_VQ
> for driver and device. Device MUST NOT assume driver does not
> acknowledge ADMIN_VQ if offered.
>
> And similarly for drivers:
>
> Note: future versions of this specification will allow setting ADMIN_VQ
> for driver and device. Drivers MUST NOT assume ADMIN_VQ if not offered.
>
> >
> > If we want, we can also state what needs to be done in general when
> > features are unsupported by the transport. And yes, that normative
> > material in my opinion.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Halil
>
>
> Are there other examples? I want to call out the list explicitly because
> it is so easy to enable an extra feature by mistake.
>
And also, I don't *want* to make it easy to add features only to some
transports. Possible, ok, but not easy.
> > > \subsubsection{Device Configuration}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio over channel I/O / Device Initialization / Device Configuration}
> > >
> > > The device's configuration space is located in host memory.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-16 15:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-12 17:18 [PATCH RFC v7 0/8] Introduce device group and device management Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-12 17:18 ` [PATCH RFC v7 1/8] Introduce device group Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-16 16:51 ` [virtio-comment] " Max Gurtovoy
2022-08-18 8:37 ` Jason Wang
2022-08-18 8:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-12 17:19 ` [PATCH RFC v7 2/8] Introduce group administration commands Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-16 22:26 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-08-18 8:46 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2022-08-18 8:51 ` [virtio] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-19 0:26 ` Jason Wang
2022-08-19 3:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-19 4:37 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2022-08-19 23:41 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-08-23 3:32 ` [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2022-08-24 9:20 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-08-12 17:19 ` [PATCH RFC v7 3/8] Introduce virtio admin virtqueue Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-16 22:29 ` [virtio-comment] " Max Gurtovoy
2022-08-12 17:19 ` [PATCH RFC v7 4/8] Add admin_queue_index register to PCI common configuration structure Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-16 22:31 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-08-18 8:49 ` Jason Wang
2022-08-18 8:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-18 8:55 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-08-19 0:28 ` Jason Wang
2022-08-19 3:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-12 17:19 ` [PATCH RFC v7 5/8] MMIO: disallow using admin vq bit Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-12 17:19 ` [PATCH RFC v7 6/8] ccw: disallow ADMIN_VQ Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-16 14:48 ` [virtio] " Halil Pasic
2022-08-16 15:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-16 15:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2022-08-16 22:36 ` [virtio-comment] " Max Gurtovoy
2022-08-18 13:39 ` Halil Pasic
2022-08-19 3:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-23 23:45 ` [virtio-dev] " Halil Pasic
2022-08-28 9:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-31 14:33 ` [virtio] " Halil Pasic
2022-08-31 14:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-09-01 23:33 ` Halil Pasic
2022-08-29 18:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-30 12:48 ` Halil Pasic
2022-08-30 14:31 ` Cornelia Huck
2022-08-12 17:19 ` [PATCH RFC v7 7/8] admin: document that structures can be shorter or longer Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-16 22:53 ` [virtio-comment] " Max Gurtovoy
2022-08-12 17:19 ` [PATCH RFC v7 8/8] admin command list discovery Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-16 23:06 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-08-18 8:51 ` Jason Wang
2022-08-18 8:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-08-18 8:56 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2022-08-18 9:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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