From: Heng Qi <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
Yuri Benditovich <yuri.benditovich@daynix.com>,
Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH v14] virtio-net: support inner header hash
Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 12:46:13 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230531044613.GA98474@h68b04307.sqa.eu95> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230530153623-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 03:40:12PM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 04:04:18PM +0800, Heng Qi wrote:
> >
> >
> > 在 2023/5/23 上午11:58, Heng Qi 写道:
> > > On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 03:19:16PM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 01:02:36PM +0800, Heng Qi wrote:
> > > > > 1. Currently, a received encapsulated packet has an outer and an inner header, but
> > > > > the virtio device is unable to calculate the hash for the inner header. The same
> > > > > flow can traverse through different tunnels, resulting in the encapsulated
> > > > > packets being spread across multiple receive queues (refer to the figure below).
> > > > > However, in certain scenarios, we may need to direct these encapsulated packets of
> > > > > the same flow to a single receive queue. This facilitates the processing
> > > > > of the flow by the same CPU to improve performance (warm caches, less locking, etc.).
> > > > >
> > > > > client1 client2
> > > > > | +-------+ |
> > > > > +------->|tunnels|<--------+
> > > > > +-------+
> > > > > | |
> > > > > v v
> > > > > +-----------------+
> > > > > | monitoring host |
> > > > > +-----------------+
> > > > >
> > > > > To achieve this, the device can calculate a symmetric hash based on the inner headers
> > > > > of the same flow.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. For legacy systems, they may lack entropy fields which modern protocols have in
> > > > > the outer header, resulting in multiple flows with the same outer header but
> > > > > different inner headers being directed to the same receive queue. This results in
> > > > > poor receive performance.
> > > > >
> > > > > To address this limitation, inner header hash can be used to enable the device to advertise
> > > > > the capability to calculate the hash for the inner packet, regaining better receive performance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Heng Qi <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>
> > > > > Reviewed-by: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > > v13->v14:
> > > > > 1. Move supported_hash_tunnel_types from config space into cvq command. @Parav Pandit
> > > > > 2. Rebase to master branch.
> > > > > 3. Some minor modifications.
> > > > So, I proposed adding a "generic UDP tunnel" option which simply uses UDP source
> > > > port for hash. I think it will help us not having to chaise future tunnels as
> > > > more and more are added.
> > > I agree, but I thought we'd do this in another thread, sorry.
> > > Following your suggestion, we should add a field similar to
> > > \field{generic_udp_tunnel_option} in the virtnet_hash_tunnel_config_set
> > > structure.
> > >
> > > \field{generic_udp_tunnel_option} should be 0, 1 or 2.
> > >
> > > \field{hash_tunnel_types} is still useful, but for more general purpose we need
> > > to use it together with \field{generic_udp_tunnel_option}.
> > >
> > > When \field{generic_udp_tunnel_option} is 0, all tunneling protocols included in
> > > \field{hash_tunnel_types} use the inner header for hashing. For other tunnel
> > > protocols not included in \field{hash_tunnel_types}, the hash is calculated as if
> > > VIRTIO_NET_F_TUNNEL_HASH is not negotiated.
> > >
> > > When \field{generic_udp_tunnel_option} is 1, all tunneling protocols included in
> > > \field{hash_tunnel_types} use the inner header for hashing. For other tunnel
> > > protocols not included in \field{hash_tunnel_types}, if their outer headers are
> > > based on UDP protocol, the device use the outer UDP source port for hashing.
> > > For the rest of the tunnel protocols, the hash is calculated as if VIRTIO_NET_F_TUNNEL_HASH
> > > was not negotiated.
> > >
> > > When \field{generic_udp_tunnel_option} is 2, for all UDP tunneling protocols,
> > > the outer udp source port is used for hashing, otherwise if the tunneling protocol
> > > is included in \field{hash_tunnel_types}, the inner header is used for hashing.
> > > For the rest of the tunnel protocols, the hash is calculated as if VIRTIO_NET_F_TUNNEL_HASH
> > > was not negotiated.
> > >
> > > And for this option, we need to add a reminder:
> > > Although the \field{generic_udp_tunnel_option} helps us adapt to more new
> > > tunneling protocols, it is still an unreliable option, especially for
> > > tunneling protocols that use "SHOULD" "Recommended" in their own
> > > specifications, because it means the udp source port does not
> > > always fully identify a stream.
> > >
> >
> > Hi, Michael.
> >
> > Do you agree with this plan? Please let me know if you have any comments.:)
> >
> > If there are no comments, I can start a new version to make progress.
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> How are "tunneling protocols" defined though?
>
I think it is:
(1) tunneling protocols that do not contain outer transport headers(such as GRE/IPIP, etc.),
(2) tunneling protocols that contain outer udp headers (such as VXLAN-GPE/GENECE, etc.), and
(3) tunneling protocols that contain outer tcp headers (such as STT).
> Maybe pass a mask of destination UDP ports for which this applies?
I think this is also a good way.
>
> Then we don't need options, if port is set in mask then
> generic udp tunnel inner hash applies. If port is not set then
> hash is calculated in some other way, including
> one of tunnel specific flags.
Ok, I want to finally check if we are aligned: the device may support some
new tunneling protocol types with outer UDP headers in the future, which
\field{hash_tunnel_types} is not aware of at this time. Then if the
destination UDP port mask is set, the device will do outer source UDP port
hashing for these tunneling protocols.
Thanks.
>
>
> > > > I also suggested dropping some tunnels which are less common and where
> > > > the specification is unambiguous enough that source port should include
> > > > inner hash.
> > > OK, I'll re-screen and update the tunneling protocols we already include
> > > (e.g. remove STT since it fits what you said).
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-31 4:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-22 5:02 [virtio-dev] [PATCH v14] virtio-net: support inner header hash Heng Qi
2023-05-22 19:19 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-23 3:58 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-05-26 8:04 ` Heng Qi
2023-05-30 19:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-05-31 4:46 ` Heng Qi [this message]
2023-06-01 4:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-01 5:17 ` Heng Qi
2023-06-01 11:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-01 11:53 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
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