Discussion of the implementations of VIRTIO specification
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From: Harald Mommer <harald.mommer@opensynergy.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Haixu Cui <quic_haixcui@quicinc.com>
Cc: virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org, cohuck@redhat.com,
	quic_ztu@quicinc.com
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] [PATCH v4] virtio-spi: add the device specification
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2023 19:37:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <59a014d3-5027-4a5c-836c-3a433dfad994@opensynergy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZUuxfbkSboAFQIQF@finisterre.sirena.org.uk>

On 08.11.23 17:04, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2023 at 11:42:40PM +0800, Haixu Cui wrote:
>> On 11/6/2023 9:33 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 08:53:46PM +0800, Haixu Cui wrote:
>>>> +	le16 bus_num;
>>>> +	le16 chip_select_max_number;
>>> That's a *lot* of potential buses and chip selects...
>> Here you mean the types of bus_num and chip_select_max_number are "le16"?
>> Here I use 16 bits because bus_num and num_chipselect in spi_controller
>> structure are both 16 bits.
> Yeah, I think that's more for padding/alignment reasons than anything
> else.  TBH I wondered if just going for a standard int might be better,
> it's the combination of picking a smaller type but one that's relatively
> large for the domain.

We cannot use int at interfaces between device and driver in the virtio 
world:

- "int" is machine dependent, sizeof may be 2, 4 or 8.

- It is signed which would be new for the virtio specification. Not done 
for other devices.

- How are signs represented? 2s complement? Strange machines do not use 
2s complement. Good is that most of those strange machines have still 
tubes and are by now obsolete.

- The endianess is machine dependent and device and driver may use 
internally a different native byte ordering. Strange but this is imaginable.

le16 is a well defined unsigned type with sizeof 2 bytes and endianess 
defined as "little endian".

> What byte ordering are the multi-byte words in - CPU native or a
> particular endianness (eg, wire native)?

Virtio uses little endian. (Some data structures in the RPMB device use 
big endian. But this is an exception and there this was done for a good 
reason.)


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-08 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-24 12:53 [virtio-dev] [PATCH v4] virtio-spi: add the device specification Haixu Cui
2023-10-24 13:08 ` [virtio-dev] " Haixu Cui
2023-11-07  7:40 ` [virtio-dev] " Qiang Zhang
2023-11-09  2:52   ` Haixu Cui
2023-11-09  3:39     ` Qiang Zhang
2023-11-09 10:21       ` Haixu Cui
2023-11-13  1:37         ` Qiang Zhang
     [not found] ` <56fbe6cc-d7a5-438f-1dd2-939f4197a970@opensynergy.com>
2023-11-07 17:10   ` [virtio-dev] " Haixu Cui
     [not found] ` <ZUjrDjHpFVReDSgk@finisterre.sirena.org.uk>
2023-11-08 15:42   ` [virtio-dev] " Haixu Cui
     [not found]     ` <ZUuxfbkSboAFQIQF@finisterre.sirena.org.uk>
2023-11-08 18:37       ` Harald Mommer [this message]
2023-11-09 11:21       ` Haixu Cui
     [not found]         ` <ZUzaZt4flHQgsBzu@finisterre.sirena.org.uk>
2023-11-10  2:37           ` Haixu Cui

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