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From: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	mst@redhat.com, quintela@redhat.com, dgilbert@redhat.com,
	yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com, quan.xu0@gmail.com,
	liliang.opensource@gmail.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	nilal@redhat.com
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 0/5] virtio-balloon: free page hint reporting support
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2018 15:21:54 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5B10F412.8050900@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180601045824.GH14867@xz-mi>

On 06/01/2018 12:58 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 02:13:43PM +0800, Wei Wang wrote:
>> This is the deivce part implementation to add a new feature,
>> VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT to the virtio-balloon device. The device
>> receives the guest free page hints from the driver and clears the
>> corresponding bits in the dirty bitmap, so that those free pages are
>> not transferred by the migration thread to the destination.
>>
>> - Test Environment
>>      Host: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2699 v4 @ 2.20GHz
>>      Guest: 8G RAM, 4 vCPU
>>      Migration setup: migrate_set_speed 100G, migrate_set_downtime 2 second
>>
>> - Test Results
>>      - Idle Guest Live Migration Time (results are averaged over 10 runs):
>>          - Optimization v.s. Legacy = 271ms vs 1769ms --> ~86% reduction
>>      - Guest with Linux Compilation Workload (make bzImage -j4):
>>          - Live Migration Time (average)
>>            Optimization v.s. Legacy = 1265ms v.s. 2634ms --> ~51% reduction
>>          - Linux Compilation Time
>>            Optimization v.s. Legacy = 4min56s v.s. 5min3s
>>            --> no obvious difference
>>
>> - Source Code
>>      - QEMU:  https://github.com/wei-w-wang/qemu-free-page-lm.git
>>      - Linux: https://github.com/wei-w-wang/linux-free-page-lm.git
> Hi, Wei,
>
> I have a very high-level question to the series.

Hi Peter,

Thanks for joining the discussion :)

>
> IIUC the core idea for this series is that we can avoid sending some
> of the pages if we know that we don't need to send them.  I think this
> is based on the fact that on the destination side all the pages are by
> default zero after they are malloced.  While before this series, IIUC
> any migration will send every single page to destination, no matter
> whether it's zeroed or not.  So I'm uncertain about whether this will
> affect the received bitmap on the destination side.  Say, before this
> series, the received bitmap will directly cover the whole RAM bitmap
> after migration is finished, now it's won't.  Will there be any side
> effect?  I don't see obvious issue now, but just raise this question
> up.

This feature currently only supports pre-copy (I think the received 
bitmap is something matters to post copy only).
That's why we have
rs->free_page_support = ..&& !migrate_postcopy();

> Meanwhile, this reminds me about a more funny idea: whether we can
> just avoid sending the zero pages directly from QEMU's perspective.
> In other words, can we just do nothing if save_zero_page() detected
> that the page is zero (I guess the is_zero_range() can be fast too,
> but I don't know exactly how fast it is)?  And how that would be
> differed from this page hinting way in either performance and other
> aspects.

I guess you referred to the zero page optimization. I think the major 
overhead comes to the zero page checking - lots of memory accesses, 
which also waste memory bandwidth. Please see the results attached in 
the cover letter. The legacy case already includes the zero page 
optimization.

Best,
Wei




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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-01  7:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-24  6:13 [virtio-dev] [PATCH v7 0/5] virtio-balloon: free page hint reporting support Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:13 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v7 1/5] bitmap: bitmap_count_one_with_offset Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:13 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v7 2/5] migration: use bitmap_mutex in migration_bitmap_clear_dirty Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:13 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v7 3/5] migration: API to clear bits of guest free pages from the dirty bitmap Wei Wang
     [not found]   ` <20180601040049.GG14867@xz-mi>
2018-06-01  7:36     ` [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
     [not found]       ` <20180601100617.GK14867@xz-mi>
2018-06-01 12:32         ` Wei Wang
     [not found]           ` <20180604024958.GA15534@xz-mi>
2018-06-04  7:43             ` Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:13 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v7 4/5] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT Wei Wang
2018-05-29 15:24   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-30  9:12     ` Wei Wang
2018-05-30 12:47       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-31  2:27         ` Wei Wang
2018-05-31 17:42           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-01  3:18             ` Wei Wang
2018-06-04  8:04         ` Wei Wang
     [not found]           ` <20180605065857.GC9216@xz-mi>
2018-06-05 13:22             ` Wei Wang
     [not found]               ` <20180606054227.GA7815@xz-mi>
2018-06-06 10:04                 ` Wei Wang
     [not found]                   ` <20180606110217.GF7815@xz-mi>
2018-06-07  5:24                     ` Wei Wang
     [not found]                       ` <20180607063241.GA750@xz-mi>
2018-06-07 11:59                         ` Wei Wang
     [not found]                           ` <20180608021758.GS750@xz-mi>
2018-06-08  7:14                             ` Wei Wang
2018-06-08  7:31                         ` Wei Wang
     [not found]   ` <20180606064315.GB7815@xz-mi>
2018-06-06 10:11     ` [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
     [not found]       ` <20180607031732.GG7815@xz-mi>
2018-06-07  5:29         ` Wei Wang
     [not found]           ` <20180607065808.GB750@xz-mi>
2018-06-07 12:01             ` Wei Wang
     [not found]               ` <20180608013723.GQ750@xz-mi>
2018-06-08  1:58                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                   ` <20180608023425.GT750@xz-mi>
2018-06-08  2:49                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-24  6:13 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v7 5/5] migration: use the free page hint feature from balloon Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:42 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v7 0/5] virtio-balloon: free page hint reporting support Wei Wang
2018-05-14  1:22 ` Wei Wang
     [not found] ` <7e6412ef-4f92-dafa-acaf-b61296740f3d@huawei.com>
2018-05-29 15:24   ` [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found] ` <20180601045824.GH14867@xz-mi>
2018-06-01  7:21   ` Wei Wang [this message]
     [not found]     ` <20180601104005.GL14867@xz-mi>
     [not found]       ` <20180601153328.GC2531@work-vm>
2018-06-05 14:39         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]         ` <20180605064240.GA9216@xz-mi>
2018-06-05 14:40           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]   ` <20180601050709.GI14867@xz-mi>
2018-06-01  7:29     ` Wei Wang
     [not found]       ` <20180601100234.GJ14867@xz-mi>
2018-06-01 12:31         ` Wei Wang

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