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From: "Zhu, Lingshan" <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: mst@redhat.com, eperezma@redhat.com, cohuck@redhat.com,
	virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [RFC PATCH 3/5] virtio: The actions by the device upon SUSPEND
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 12:53:31 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7e85c213-2835-4d2b-ec3a-d94f169ccb9b@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACGkMEtDqHPDwXKy09fgmhZ2yywF2061W0g-RDZwx7Lv5AtBLg@mail.gmail.com>



On 8/16/2023 10:10 AM, Jason Wang wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 7:17 PM Zhu, Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 8/15/2023 8:29 AM, Jason Wang wrote:
>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 7:29 PM Zhu Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com> wrote:
>>>> This commit specifies the actions to be taken by the device upon
>>>> SUSPEND.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Eugenio PÃrez <eperezma@redhat.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Zhu Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>    content.tex | 9 +++++++++
>>>>    1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
>>>> index 074f43e..43bd5de 100644
>>>> --- a/content.tex
>>>> +++ b/content.tex
>>>> @@ -96,6 +96,15 @@ \section{\field{Device Status} Field}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Dev
>>>>    If VIRTIO_F_SUSPEND is negotiated and SUSPEND is set, the device MUST clear SUSPEND
>>>>    and resumes operation upon DRIVER_OK.
>>>>
>>>> +If VIRTIO_F_SUSPEND is negotiated, when SUSPEND is set, the device MUST perform the following operations:
>>>> +\begin{itemize}
>>>> +\item Stop comsuming any descriptors
>>> Typo.
>> yes will fix
>>>> +\item Mark all finished descriptors as used and send used buffer notification to the driver
>>> What happens to the unfinished descriptors?
>> still in the descriptors table or considered as in-flight, we will post
>> a patch tracking in-flight descriptors.
> So I think we should either
>
> 1) add in-flight descriptors in this series
>
> or
>
> 2) force a flush
>
> To make sure the new proposed function is complete.
Yes, will fix in the next version: The device must wait for the 
descriptors and flush the buffers.
>
>>>> +\item Record Virtqueue State of each enabled virtqueue, see section \ref{sec:Virtqueues / Virtqueue State}
>>> This basically means those states are only available after suspending
>>> or not? It would be still useful for debugging if we allow it without
>>> suspending.
>> Yes, for now only allow to read/write the virtqueue state after setting
>> SUSPEND, this is to avoid race conditions with the device.
> For debugging, we don't need to care about those races. A lot of
> hardware allow to expose those via e.g ethtool.
How about we allow read vq state without SUSPEND and forbid write vq state?
>
>> Still can suspend then collect the idx for debugging?
> I mean for runtime debugging.
>
>>>> +\item Pause its operation and preserve all configurations in its Device Configuration Space, see \ref{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Device Configuration Space}
>>> We probably need to define the "pause" here (e.g what happens to the
>>> inflight descriptors).
>> Shall we say: freeze both its data-plane and control-plane?
> I mean if we've defined "suspend" we can simply use "suspend" instead
> of "pause"?
This section defines SUSPEND behaviors, so actually SUSPEND is defined here.
so if we use suspend in the inner text, looks like a circular reasoning.

Thanks
>
> Thanks
>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>> +\item Present SUSPEND in \field{device status}
>>>> +\end{itemize}
>>>> +
>>>>    \section{Feature Bits}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Feature Bits}
>>>>
>>>>    Each virtio device offers all the features it understands.  During
>>>> --
>>>> 2.35.3
>>>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-16  4:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-14 19:28 [virtio-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/5] virtio: introduce SUSPEND bit and vq state Zhu Lingshan
2023-08-14 14:20 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-14 15:47 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-15  1:38   ` Jason Wang
2023-08-15 10:14     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-14 19:29 ` [virtio-dev] [RFC PATCH 1/5] virtio: introduce SUSPEND bit in device status Zhu Lingshan
2023-08-14 14:30   ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-15 10:31     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 12:29       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-17 15:15         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-08-17 16:04           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-18  9:55             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-21 13:45               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-15  0:26   ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-08-15  0:37     ` Jason Wang
2023-08-15 10:48       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-16  1:58         ` Jason Wang
2023-08-16  2:17           ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 10:50       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-16  2:05         ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Jason Wang
2023-08-16  2:20           ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-14 19:29 ` [virtio-dev] [RFC PATCH 2/5] virtio: introduce vq state as basic facility Zhu Lingshan
2023-08-14 14:49   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-15 10:53     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-14 19:29 ` [virtio-dev] [RFC PATCH 3/5] virtio: The actions by the device upon SUSPEND Zhu Lingshan
2023-08-14 15:00   ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-15 11:07     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15 12:33       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-16  4:25         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-16 12:33           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-15  0:29   ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-08-15 11:16     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-16  2:10       ` Jason Wang
2023-08-16  4:53         ` Zhu, Lingshan [this message]
2023-08-14 19:29 ` [virtio-dev] [RFC PATCH 4/5] virtqueue: constraints for virtqueue state Zhu Lingshan
2023-08-14 15:15   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-15 11:18     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15  0:34   ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-08-15 11:30     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-16  2:11       ` Jason Wang
2023-08-16  5:07         ` Zhu, Lingshan
     [not found]       ` <SN6PR11MB3517EF23D99CE4FDA8DDB22DFF1AA@SN6PR11MB3517.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
2023-08-17  8:42         ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-21  4:03           ` Jason Wang
2023-08-17 15:19       ` [virtio-dev] " Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-08-18  9:44         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-21  9:26           ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-08-21 10:32             ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-05  9:08             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-07  8:09               ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-09-07  9:34                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-08  6:23                   ` Si-Wei Liu
2023-09-08  8:41                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-14 19:29 ` [virtio-dev] [RFC PATCH 5/5] virtio-pci: implement VIRTIO_F_QUEUE_STATE Zhu Lingshan
2023-08-14 15:18   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-08-15 11:31     ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-15  0:35   ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-08-15 11:31     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-08-17  3:04 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] virtio: introduce SUSPEND bit and vq state Zhu, Lingshan

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