From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, jasowang@redhat.com,
mst@redhat.com, sgarzare@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
nrupal.jani@intel.com, Piotr.Uminski@intel.com,
hang.yuan@intel.com
Cc: virtio@lists.oasis-open.org,
Zhu Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>,
pasic@linux.ibm.com, Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>,
Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
Subject: [virtio] Re: [PATCH v8 2/9] admin: introduce device group and related concepts
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 13:11:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878rk3fau0.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221121012419.317406-3-mst@redhat.com>
On Sun, Nov 20 2022, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> Each device group has a type. For now, define one initial group:
>
> SR-IOV type - PCI SR-IOV virtual functions (VFs) of a given
> PCI SR-IOV physical function (PF). This group may contain one or more
> virtio devices.
>
> Each device within a group has a unique identifier. This identifier
> is the group member identifier.
>
> Note: one can argue both ways whether the new device group handling
> functionality (this and following patches) is closer
> to a new device type or a new transport type.
>
> However, I expect that we will add more features in the near future. To
> facilitate this as much as possible of the text is located in the new
> admin chapter.
>
> I did my best to minimize transport-specific text.
>
> Signed-off-by: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
> Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> ---
> admin.tex | 50 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> content.tex | 2 ++
> 2 files changed, 52 insertions(+)
> create mode 100644 admin.tex
>
> diff --git a/admin.tex b/admin.tex
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000..4337db0
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/admin.tex
> @@ -0,0 +1,50 @@
> +\section{Device groups}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Device groups}
> +
> +It is occasionally useful to have a device control a group of
> +other devices. Terminology used in such cases:
> +
> +\begin{description}
> +\item[Device group]
> + or just group, includes zero or more devices.
> +\item[Owner device]
> + or owner, the device controlling the group.
> +\item[Member device]
> + a device within a group. Owner device itself is not
s/Owner/The owner/
> + a member of the group. In the future it is envisoned that
> + new group types may be introduced where the owner
> + device is a member of the group.
So, shouldn't it rather be: "Whether the owner device itself is a member
of the group depends on the type of the group." ? Or do we want to
prefer the owner _not_ being a member of the group?
> +\item[Member identifier]
> + each member has this identifier, unique within the group
> + and used to address it through the owner device.
> +\item[Group type identifier]
> + specifies what kind of member devices there are in a
> + group, how is the member identifier interpreted
"how the member indentifier is interpreted, ..."
> + and what kind of control does the owner have.
s/does the owner have/the owner has/
> + At the moment, a given owner can control
> + a single group of a given type, thus the type and
> + the owner together identify the group.
> + It is envisioned that this last restriction might be relaxed in the future,
> + with multiple groups of the same type for a given owner.
Hm...
"A given owner may control a single group of a given type (which means
that the type and the owner together identify the group), or multiple
groups of the same type. Currently, only a single group per owner is
supported." ?
Basically, I'd prefer if we spelled out what is possible in general, and
then add a comment that only a subset of the possibilities is currently
implemented.
> +\end{description}
> +
> +A single group type is currently specified:
"The following group types are currently specified:" ?
Less editing once we add a second one :)
> +\begin{description}
> +\item[SR-IOV group type]
Maybe \item[SR-IOV group type (1)] ? It's nice to have the identifier in
the title already (like we do for features.)
> +This device group has a PCI Single Root I/O Virtualization
> +(SR-IOV) physical function (PF) device as the owner and includes
> +all its SR-IOV virtual functions (VFs) as members (see
> +\hyperref[intro:PCIe]{[PCIe]}).
> +
> +The PF device itself is not a member of the group.
> +
> +The group type identifier for this group is 0x1.
> +
> +A member identifier for this group can have a value 0x1 to 0xFFFF
> +and equals the SR-IOV VF number of the member device (see
> +\hyperref[intro:PCIe]{[PCIe]}).
> +
> +Both owner and member devices for this group type use the Virtio
> +PCI transport (see \ref{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus}).
> +\end{description}
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-22 12:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-21 1:25 [PATCH v8 0/9] Introduce device group and device management Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 1:25 ` [PATCH v8 1/9] virtio: document forward compatibility guarantees Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 15:24 ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 20:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23 9:21 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23 9:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 1:25 ` [PATCH v8 2/9] admin: introduce device group and related concepts Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 12:11 ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2022-11-22 20:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23 9:26 ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-21 1:25 ` [PATCH v8 3/9] admin: introduce group administration commands Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 12:43 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-21 1:25 ` [PATCH v8 4/9] admin: introduce virtio admin virtqueues Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 13:14 ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 19:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23 9:30 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23 9:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23 9:54 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-21 1:25 ` [PATCH v8 5/9] pci: add admin vq registers to virtio over pci Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 14:46 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 19:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23 9:36 ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23 9:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 1:25 ` [PATCH v8 6/9] mmio: document ADMIN_VQ as reserved Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 1:25 ` [PATCH v8 7/9] ccw: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 15:53 ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-21 16:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 17:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 8:50 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 9:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 1:25 ` [PATCH v8 8/9] admin: command list discovery Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 11:06 ` Uminski, Piotr
2022-12-15 9:09 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-12-15 9:52 ` Uminski, Piotr
2022-12-24 18:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 15:25 ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 19:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23 9:51 ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23 10:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23 10:09 ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23 10:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23 10:33 ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23 11:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 1:25 ` [PATCH v8 9/9] admin: conformance clauses Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 16:06 ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 19:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23 9:52 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
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